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  • Feb 5, 2021
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    could anybody point me to the Chinese' position on their reasoning behind the persecution of the Uyghurs ?

    i remember arguing with somebody about it a long time ago and i wanted to go over their points to understand the situation better

  • Feb 5, 2021
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    deadacc

    could anybody point me to the Chinese' position on their reasoning behind the persecution of the Uyghurs ?

    i remember arguing with somebody about it a long time ago and i wanted to go over their points to understand the situation better

    They believe the Uighurs culture and religion makes them pre disposed to terrorism and separatism.

  • Feb 5, 2021
    TragedyBerlusconi

    They believe the Uighurs culture and religion makes them pre disposed to terrorism and separatism.

    thanks

  • Feb 5, 2021
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    They believe the Uighurs culture and religion makes them pre disposed to terrorism and separatism.

    you know why the soviets were supporting the Uyghur separatists ?

  • Feb 5, 2021
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    deadacc

    you know why the soviets were supporting the Uyghur separatists ?

    No I dont, but this was before the current era so I'd wager the 2 causes arent all that relate

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    TragedyBerlusconi

    No I dont, but this was before the current era so I'd wager the 2 causes arent all that relate

    just reading a brief history i don't understand what prompted China to start the Uyghur genocide at large when it seems mostly like a minority strand of separatist terrorists ?

    edit: I mean what changed in 2017?

  • deadacc

    just reading a brief history i don't understand what prompted China to start the Uyghur genocide at large when it seems mostly like a minority strand of separatist terrorists ?

    edit: I mean what changed in 2017?

    China has been authoritarian for many years but took a turn even further in the early 2010s with the rise of Xi, after a period of relative liberalisation.

    I guess authoritarians are not smart and are insecure in their position, so they seek to quash different cultures to prevent dissent

  • google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-china-55984854

    Clubhouse was briefly available in China before being banned

    A big discussion was had between Taiwanese, Hong Kongers, Mainland Han Chinese and Uighurs. In which many mainland Han people came to understand, and even more agreed that brutal repression policies are happening in Xinjiang.

    Highly recommend that article

  • Feb 11, 2021
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    deadacc

    just reading a brief history i don't understand what prompted China to start the Uyghur genocide at large when it seems mostly like a minority strand of separatist terrorists ?

    edit: I mean what changed in 2017?

    After September 11 they used that angst and fight against terrorism to push their agenda in the region, as TragedyBerlusconi said they particularly linked terrorism to the XUAR muslim population. Scholars have noticed that before 9/11 terrorism, at least in security discourse was never linked with the Uighar minority.

    Also interesting to note is that the region itself is central to their Belt and Road initiative in terms of its geography. So at least from what I was reading they’ve used the terrorist connection to ramp up their presence in the region in order to ensure the Belt and Road Initiative is able to operate smoothly. The success of the BRI is important for Xi, sees it as a legacy defining creation so they’ve done what they have there to ensure it doesn’t fail.

  • Feb 11, 2021
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    whiteboy magz

    After September 11 they used that angst and fight against terrorism to push their agenda in the region, as TragedyBerlusconi said they particularly linked terrorism to the XUAR muslim population. Scholars have noticed that before 9/11 terrorism, at least in security discourse was never linked with the Uighar minority.

    Also interesting to note is that the region itself is central to their Belt and Road initiative in terms of its geography. So at least from what I was reading they’ve used the terrorist connection to ramp up their presence in the region in order to ensure the Belt and Road Initiative is able to operate smoothly. The success of the BRI is important for Xi, sees it as a legacy defining creation so they’ve done what they have there to ensure it doesn’t fail.

    thanks. i found sources that point to the same conclusions you posted about and thought you might be interested in it as well.

    law.emory.edu/eilr/content/volume-33/issue-3/articles/three-evils-analysis-counter-terrorism-china.html

  • Feb 11, 2021
    deadacc

    thanks. i found sources that point to the same conclusions you posted about and thought you might be interested in it as well.

    https://law.emory.edu/eilr/content/volume-33/issue-3/articles/three-evils-analysis-counter-terrorism-china.html

    Nice, I remember reading something similar last semester. Good to see that you’ve found this. 🙌🏽

  • Feb 17, 2021
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    AKFresh
    https://twitter.com/tcpigott/status/1361878482310082562

    Considering that Biden was arguably the most vocal about the muslim genocide in Bosnia in the 90s, this is extremely disappointing.

  • Feb 17, 2021
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    mirza

    Considering that Biden was arguably the most vocal about the muslim genocide in Bosnia in the 90s, this is extremely disappointing.

    I'm not trying to make excuses for weakness but perhaps hes proceeding with caution and has something in plan. I dont know

  • Feb 17, 2021
    TragedyBerlusconi

    I'm not trying to make excuses for weakness but perhaps hes proceeding with caution and has something in plan. I dont know

    I wouldn't ever give BIden the benefit of the doubt

  • Feb 18, 2021
    AKFresh
    https://twitter.com/tcpigott/status/1361878482310082562

    huge yikes

  • Feb 18, 2021
    AKFresh
    https://twitter.com/tcpigott/status/1361878482310082562

    Am I buggin?..cause I didn't come away with Biden trying to explain away China's human rights violations. He literally mentions a list of them.

    He's fumbling and stumbling, but ultimately he says Xi "gets it" or recognizes that the USA will speak out on all these issues because our values are different from theirs and "culturally there are different norms" as in we don't approve of the type of s*** they're doing.

  • Feb 18, 2021
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    Mango

    Some good resources on this genocide that Biden and the US are endorsing.

    https://thegrayzone.com/2019/12/21/china-detaining-millions-uyghurs-problems-claims-us-ngo-researcher/

    https://thegrayzone.com/2020/03/05/world-uyghur-congress-us-far-right-regime-change-network-fall-china/

    https://thegrayzone.com/2020/03/26/forced-labor-china-us-nato-arms-industry-cold-war/

    https://thegrayzone.com/2021/01/28/ny-times-uighur-china-genocide-falun-gong/

    grayzone isnt a good source, the founder has a financial tie to moscow. im sure many pro america sources arent good either but do better

    This article is by southern poverty law center, but wasnt circulated. it shows the grayzone is a fascist publication that weaponises left wing discontent

    nothingiseverlost.wordpress.com/2018/03/17/against-the-grayzone-the-article-max-blumenthal-doesnt-want-you-to-read

  • Feb 18, 2021
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    lol at the white tankies getting mad at a muslim woman for having the gall to stand up for her religious kin

  • Feb 18, 2021
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    TragedyBerlusconi
    https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1362136748621463552

    lol at the white tankies getting mad at a muslim woman for having the gall to stand up for her religious kin

    na but this is hilarious coming from omar who chose not to vote on that armenian genocide bill earlier

  • Frog

    na but this is hilarious coming from omar who chose not to vote on that armenian genocide bill earlier

    Oh yeah you're right on thisb

  • Feb 18, 2021
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    grayzone isnt a good source, the founder has a financial tie to moscow. im sure many pro america sources arent good either but do better

    This article is by southern poverty law center, but wasnt circulated. it shows the grayzone is a fascist publication that weaponises left wing discontent

    https://nothingiseverlost.wordpress.com/2018/03/17/against-the-grayzone-the-article-max-blumenthal-doesnt-want-you-to-read/

    You wanna talk about good sources but every single piece of informaton on so-called Uigur genocide is from Adrian Zenz.

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