Jan 26·1 reply
PersonalityNiggas got me f***ed up on gooooooooood f*** china till the death of meeeeeeeee
delete this, p****
I didn’t delete anything, mods changed title of the thread and must’ve did it. you seem upset and bothered
- Jan 26Personality
Niggas got me f***ed up on gooooooooood f*** china till the death of meeeeeeeee
delete this, p****
And this is a thread about AI, not about however you feel China and Disney can work towards better releasing cultural products worldwide
If you are upset over how China edits movies I encourage you to make a thread and garner your own discusssion
Jan 26Just deleted my ChatGPT acc, love when the underdog wins
Jan 26·1 reply
Shampoo BraceletsCatch up? They’ve surpassed us and will continue to do so
And this isn’t infrastructure or something that takes decades and trillions to tear down and build up. This is just s*** behind a computer screen
Americans too busy crying about work from home because they desperately want to get keep getting paid $100/hr on top of RSU’s to play video games, make tik toks, and eat out.
They followed the blueprint companies like OpenAI have started. That’s why it’s easier to catch up, they didn’t perform the initial R&D.
China also notoriously hires engineers from the US and performs corporate espionage to get a competitive edge. They find ways to steal corporate secrets and use it themselves.
Here’s a source for that
- Jan 26·2 repliesSquilliam
They followed the blueprint companies like OpenAI have started. That’s why it’s easier to catch up, they didn’t perform the initial R&D.
China also notoriously hires engineers from the US and performs corporate espionage to get a competitive edge. They find ways to steal corporate secrets and use it themselves.
Here’s a source for that
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-64206950
this is a lot of cope.
Chinese people aren’t illiterate rats hiding in caves waiting to steal “western” tech you imbecile
- Jan 26
Literally quoting BBC as proof China is “stealing” tech
Jan 26teku izingthis is a lot of cope.
Chinese people aren’t illiterate rats hiding in caves waiting to steal “western” tech you imbecile
westerners fuming when china 'steals' 'their' ip and tech to make it better for half the price is one of my favorite things
- Jan 26·1 replyteku izing
this is a lot of cope.
Chinese people aren’t illiterate rats hiding in caves waiting to steal “western” tech you imbecile
He didn't say that
And it's true China is known for that. That makes them smart tho
Jan 26Ready for China to take over
Save us Xi
- Jan 26Shampoo Bracelets
Catch up? They’ve surpassed us and will continue to do so
And this isn’t infrastructure or something that takes decades and trillions to tear down and build up. This is just s*** behind a computer screen
Americans too busy crying about work from home because they desperately want to get keep getting paid $100/hr on top of RSU’s to play video games, make tik toks, and eat out.
That last part sounds like actually living life instead of living to work tho
Can't blame em
- Jan 26·edited·1 replyOnceAgain
He didn't say that
And it's true China is known for that. That makes them smart tho
that’s what people imply
And no, they are not
Chinese and Western companies enter into completely mutual agreements for American corporations to export capital to Chinese cities and hire wage labor for cheap, in return Chinese state owned enterprises and private enterprises can also enter limited agreements with private western corporations so that the Chinese corporations gain information
It’s just capitalist companies entering into agreements, American politicians know this too but it’s easier to just blame China for why America’s problem (and they can’t literally say “hey we are bought out by the same corporations that decided to de-industrialize and move industries outside America because we didn’t want to pay you guys that much)
It’s all cope to take away from the fact that America is largely unproductive and its industries choose to invest largely in stocks, assets, financial speculation instead of hard production of goods or social spending towards education, healthcare, housing which is precisely why 20-30-40 years later after China “opened up” to the West it surpassed the US at capitalism.
- Jan 26·edited
IP rights are all scams and ultimately a classist and racist way of gate keeping intangible goods and “ideas”
The bourgeois enclosements of the mind, it doesn’t exist
- Jan 26
Your Chinese SpyWe love Panther!
- Your Chinese Spy
- Jan 26teku izing· edited
that’s what people imply
And no, they are not
Chinese and Western companies enter into completely mutual agreements for American corporations to export capital to Chinese cities and hire wage labor for cheap, in return Chinese state owned enterprises and private enterprises can also enter limited agreements with private western corporations so that the Chinese corporations gain information
It’s just capitalist companies entering into agreements, American politicians know this too but it’s easier to just blame China for why America’s problem (and they can’t literally say “hey we are bought out by the same corporations that decided to de-industrialize and move industries outside America because we didn’t want to pay you guys that much)
It’s all cope to take away from the fact that America is largely unproductive and its industries choose to invest largely in stocks, assets, financial speculation instead of hard production of goods or social spending towards education, healthcare, housing which is precisely why 20-30-40 years later after China “opened up” to the West it surpassed the US at capitalism.
Dope ass answer
- Jan 26
Notice how IP holders are largely held by individuals who come from old money or have tons of capital startup already
It isn’t your average person or poor person getting an IP
It’s just for the rich to continue to get rich, historically this meant that corporations and firms with the impetus to expand under imperialism can move into less productive areas, (either by force or by exporting capital) and set up a monopoly over the resources and people of that land
Or for a rich capitalist to block an important commodity (medicine for example) from being generalized in production, instead they have monopoly rights over a specific medicine and poor countries have to pay exorbitant prices just of obtain them.
Further entrenching old processes of domination
- Jan 26Your Chinese Spy
We love Panther!
- Jan 26teku izing
I didn’t delete anything, mods changed title of the thread and must’ve did it. you seem upset and bothered
shieeet its just dumb my one movie post was deleted but nunatha rest but if it wasnt you my fault gang
Jan 26yay more slop
Jan 26If only we can all work this out together
F*** all that politics s***
- Jan 27·2 replies
Tkkenwell if you ctrl+f stargate in that article you get zero results so that should hopefully answer your question
and you cant "obliterate" a joint venture that was announced a literal week ago
they only just started building out data centers for stargatealso yes deepseek r1 beats o1 on a subset of benchmarks but openai is already rolling out o3-mini, then a better model next month. openai's moat is clearly not that large but they arent getting "obliterated" by anyone
deepseek is cool because theyve built some highly compute efficient models to get around limited access to hardware and managed to make them comparable to foundation models that were already released by top ai labs. its very neat stuff but they arent ahead of the pack in any sense
its a pretty dynamic race, it was looking like claude had caught up to gpt-4o and then this whole paradigm of varying/scaling up test time compute emerged and things shifted
idk I could get into more technical detail but it feels like this is some kind of politically motivated thing on your part so whatever
What I’m confused about is outside of this pushing pricing down across-the-board..
Isn’t an open AI in an advantageous position since this is open source technology and they have the capital, talent, and existing infrastructure to take advantage of these new innovations and use deep seek’s open source model to improve their own solutions?
- Jan 27·1 replyBird Boy
What I’m confused about is outside of this pushing pricing down across-the-board..
Isn’t an open AI in an advantageous position since this is open source technology and they have the capital, talent, and existing infrastructure to take advantage of these new innovations and use deep seek’s open source model to improve their own solutions?
The business structure of DeepSeek will always make it cheaper and imo is what makes it cheaper now
The double whammy of being attached to quant hedge fund and not being filled with circlejerking senior officers like Sam Altman will give them a steep financial edge
BLACK ☭Jan 27PersonalityNiggas got me f***ed up on gooooooooood f*** china till the death of meeeeeeeee
delete this, p****
china number 1
- Jan 27·1 reply
monocultureThey have h100s.. we dk how many, but I’ve read 50,000
Source?
- Jan 27·1 replyamericana
The business structure of DeepSeek will always make it cheaper and imo is what makes it cheaper now
The double whammy of being attached to quant hedge fund and not being filled with circlejerking senior officers like Sam Altman will give them a steep financial edge
Can you explain the model mechanics leading to it being cheaper? I haven’t read into any of it
Jan 27·1 replyPersonalityNiggas got me f***ed up on gooooooooood f*** china till the death of meeeeeeeee
delete this, p****
Are there any other examples besides these two?
I also found these
