Jan 28·1 replyIndians
Jan 28Indians
Jan 28·1 reply
OwOCommon sense
Common sense based on what exactly
Jan 28·1 replyApparently it had a big spam of requests from the US trying to bring it down which is why they limited signups lol
- Jan 28·2 repliesBig Tobacco
Common sense based on what exactly
On China
- Jan 28OwO
On China
When do you think the US started collecting peoples data and when do you think China started collecting peoples data
Jan 28radiosondeIndians
whatchu mean twin- Jan 28nicobarret
Apparently it had a big spam of requests from the US trying to bring it down which is why they limited signups lol
Ddos?
Jan 28OwOOn China
America has had access to microchips and information technology for much much longer than China has, which was semi-feudal well into the 40s and 50s.
So since you can’t understand his basic premise, no, America has had the capacity to develop and produce technology that would eventually be used in part to collect data far longer than China
Jan 28
YANDHIHe and other heads are gonna say this because they have investments at risk they need to justify and are unnerved by the uncomfortable discussions this has led to.
Deepseek didn't include hardware in training costs and said they used some type of Nvidia chip. It doesn't literally cost $6M thats just what the 2 months of training added to. That's not what really matters. The issue they really have is that a Chinese lab democratized AI and went open-source in a sector filled with closed-AI companies greedy for hundreds of billions in new investments. Why pay thousands a year for pro models when this is basically free
They've been publishing research papers on their advancements for a year, released their major model 3 weeks ago and a new one last week, but now all of a sudden everyone has a hardware excuse right as the market is reacting lol yeah right
Honestly appreciate the great a***ysis, for non tech bros some of this stuff can sound like chinese a lot of the time (no pun intended)
Admittedly i have a ton of money in big tech so my first reaction is also going to be to hope theres some sort of explanation to settle down the market too hahaha
Jan 28·1 replyPeople really care that much about who is dominating an imaginary “race”
Jan 28·1 replydotMPeople really care that much about who is dominating an imaginary “race”
Imaginary?
- Jan 28
viscera
Jan 28Took calls for Nvidia don’t see anymore downside coming
- Jan 28·1 replyRon Mexico
Imaginary?
I mean tbh this hasn't been much of a traditional "race" so far
U.S has always led in AI, has top tech, caught China by surprise with ChatGPT, tried to kneecap China's ability to keep up domestically, bragged about being years ahead as recently as 2024, and China is just doing what they literally have to do to survive. Deepseek taking open-source route was an olive branch for global collaboration and they said it in their research paper. The point is for others to take their model and innovate on it as they continue work, not to take down U.S AI. They've been sly with their timing of releases but thats about it
It was U.S media that made it into spicy headlines about AI races.
Jan 28US always bootstrapping itself too hard innit
The prolific hackers here would be an average b****** in china
Jan 28Anything that'll take these corporate sickos' lunch money, I'll support 😂
Jan 28YANDHII mean tbh this hasn't been much of a traditional "race" so far
U.S has always led in AI, has top tech, caught China by surprise with ChatGPT, tried to kneecap China's ability to keep up domestically, bragged about being years ahead as recently as 2024, and China is just doing what they literally have to do to survive. Deepseek taking open-source route was an olive branch for global collaboration and they said it in their research paper. The point is for others to take their model and innovate on it as they continue work, not to take down U.S AI. They've been sly with their timing of releases but thats about it
It was U.S media that made it into spicy headlines about AI races.
americans love their jingoism
Jan 28would love to divest from chatgpt but there being no option to alter privacy settings on deepseek right now kind of a dub
Jan 28now wait...
Jan 28Oh wow, they’re saying they used old Nvidia and Huawei chips?
Jan 28·1 replywatching dengism become mainstream in the US in real time has been crazy
Jan 28·1 replySnowboywatching dengism become mainstream in the US in real time has been crazy
Me when I’m stupid:
- Jan 28·2 repliesStanley Kiest
Me when I’m stupid:
not really. youre seeing it right now. white middle class liberals are becoming "pro-China" because they feel like China's keynesian welfare system is something they were screwed out of. combined with fantasies of China as a "meritocratic system" with "racial harmony" and you can see why these petty bourgeois liberals are on the bandwagon.
- Jan 28Snowboy
not really. youre seeing it right now. white middle class liberals are becoming "pro-China" because they feel like China's keynesian welfare system is something they were screwed out of. combined with fantasies of China as a "meritocratic system" with "racial harmony" and you can see why these petty bourgeois liberals are on the bandwagon.
Not gonna lie I was just trying to bait you but you’re honestly on the money here
Good breakdown