EX: the drums pattern sound like some early Dj kenn and Dj L beats

Than at 0:38 “bounce out start drilling y’all” the song came out in 2008

Chiraq nor did ATL have that sound in 2008 - 2010 only Cali

It’s not about who did first, it’s about who did it right

No

At this point we might as well just start tracking every rap sub genre back to the origins of rap

"drill" has been chicago lingo for shooting since the prohibition era

The difference is when Chicago did it, it sounds good.

Like Al Capone type dudes

yes

oh nah im not disagreeing with that point, ik most of the drill producers cite atlanta, especially flockaveli as their influences but i wouldnt be shocked if they drew from cali too. just stating that chicago definitely didnt get the term drill from cali though

The drum patterns are from Chicago's footwork genre. Maybe footwork/juke influenced that Cali s*** you have linked

naw

didn't dj kenn do a bunch of work with chicago rappers though?

Think that’s a different Dj Ken idk though

I'm kinda dumb when it comes to footwork and juke but that's where they got the drums from. Footwork kinda took juke's unconvential drums and made them skitter which influenced gave drill their distinct sound

You can see the influence it has on their distinct production

hiphop su genres have always pulled influence from a ton of areas and from within itself

the bay influenced detroit and vice versa, i wouldn’t be surprised if there was mutual influence from both, but to say that chi drill is FROM cali is off

Hard

Yeah. Chicago just tied their own sound with ATL trap styles. S*** comes back to a circle sometimes though. King Von rapping on UK drill beats on his last project when his scene influenced that sound is kinda mindblowing.

Chicago sounds the best. Cali was on some wack s***

source my brother?

Yeah, 16 year olds were running around listening to this D side. Direct line of influence. You cracked the case OP.