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  • Nov 5, 2019
    KURCOBANE

    "natural cycle"

    Wow

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    Op dats u!

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    Worldwide ecological collapse is already happening. It's called the holocene extinction. Purely caused by human civilization. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction — Plenty of life will THRIVE thanks to global warming.

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    • We’re completely f***ed, it's unbelievably horrendous, every single keystone species in the tropics is in decline, amazonia will never ever recover its biodiversity, we’re bleeding out into the void and we still think there is time to act. Things will become uncomfortable in the next century and hellish after that. We’ll all be lucky to die before the carbon becomes unbearable.

    • Arthropods make up 85% of species on Earth, and now we have multiple studies on multiple continents indicating 50% to 98% dropoff. Without insects, an estimated 90% of all wild plant species will die. Almost every animal on land (including flying animals) either feeds on insects, on plants that need insects, or on animals that feed on insects. One disruption in the food chain is going to have massive consequences for humans... and fish, bats, plants, amphibians, birds, reptiles. Everything.

    • Desertification of large swathes of Asia (including west and north china) and Africa will lead to hundreds of millions of refugees. Starvation and war will destabilize whole continents. In the west the legacy of the green revolution still hasn't been erased and so we continue to exhaust the top soil and poison the water table with pesticides. Once you drain or poison a water table it doesn't come back, not in a time frame meaningful to humans. Didn’t even mention the carbon and ozone poisoning, not that it matters even just the loss of top soil, phytoplankton, soil microbiome, soil nutrients and tree cover (to protect from inland storm systems) is enough to f*** us. Also all the insects, amphibians and birds will die, fish are inundated with psychotropics and plastics, water supply is full of heavy metals, and the only advanced lifeform on earth is advanced enough only to slowly realize the inevitable is coming but not enough to do anything about it.

    • Literally the only solution is de-industrialization and depopulation. I also forget to mention rising ocean salinity. Everything everywhere is dying and there is no meaningful response. Probably the best we can hope for is some unexpected nuclear catastrophe or some kind of Malthusian blender within the next 20 years tops. Under democracy it's impossible to tell the sheep that they're going to have to simply have less stupid s*** or else the world will die. That is the fundamental problem with democracy is that it just ratchets irreversibly (under that system) towards gratifying the mob at any expense.

    • There are probably ten thousand different processes in the biosphere that will be effected. It's so bad that again it cannot be discussed by the media or STEMfags because there would be a stock market crash or global warfare or just a liquidation program overnight. It's really f***ed beyond comprehension. Capital is headless and doesn’t care if we all die it's not based in preservative evolutionary processes that protect against destruction of basic homeostasis. There is no way out, even if we slow warming to the UN target there are deteriorating systems in our most important ecosystems that will give out before we can reverse the damage. Soil erosion, loss of insects and birds is probably the most noticeable thing besides bizarre weather patterns and pollution. We will see the effect of the other diseased systems soon. It's just we’re human so we think in terms of months and years, this takes decades but it also compounds on itself with time and is unfortunately based in an interdependent web of interactions which accelerate damage.

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    IKARUS2020

    So what is it that you want to see done? I stil dont get your point, i agree that politicans wont solve this alone, we all have responsibility, but what are u suggesting?

    Building self sustainable houses, particularly for low income/homeless people. Built with SIPS, solar roof etc, once I get a good water irrigation system it’s game over. Each house will have its own mini farm... if TMH blesses me with acres of land... 🌊

    I’ve never had to look at a chart nor read an article, book nor watch videos about this matter. Look around you and make a difference.

    Y’all come off as SJWs who hide behind your belief system.

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    nirvana

    Op dats u!

    ReUpload that

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    That sounds like a u problem. Fix it.

  • Nov 5, 2019
    canon

    Building self sustainable houses, particularly for low income/homeless people. Built with SIPS, solar roof etc, once I get a good water irrigation system it’s game over. Each house will have its own mini farm... if TMH blesses me with acres of land... 🌊

    I’ve never had to look at a chart nor read an article, book nor watch videos about this matter. Look around you and make a difference.

    Y’all come off as SJWs who hide behind your belief system.

    Amazing that u taking action

    But pls dont fall for right wing propaganda , talking about sjw 🤣 pls stop, dont generalise ppl like that, i absolutly do care and im ready to do whatever it takes

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    I think u just mad at these stereotypes bro, like its hard for me to take anyone serious , that lumps ppl into sjws because they care about our future

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    • are you aware of what a "keystone species" is?
    • Decline in biodiversity is a VERY different beast from total ecological collapse. Total ecological collapse (extinction of all multicelular life) will only occur due to a positive feedback loop which starts at 4 degrees of warming. Loss in biodiversity is a minor setback but nothing serious. It will not impact human life in any tangible way.
      we're in the midst of an ecological collapse, and theoretically reduction of population may allow the systems that are left to rebuild and start to repair our life support systems. Also, in theory, the power structure's grasp will be greatly reduced during the process of depopulation. During this they and their agendas can finally be destroyed.
    • No because the basis of the dropping population is sterilization. We're reaching a point of mutational load where within 5-10 years it's going to be apparent that the vast majority of people are incapable of producing viable children. When a society realizes it has no future its social control structures and economic activity plummets and it begins to implode. The narratives all become empty.
      Insect populations are down as much as 90%. They're been annihilated. Non-scavenger bird populations are rapidly dropping. Amphibians are disappearing. Trees are dying and displaying otherwise unusual pathological behavior. Their ability to fix carbon are greatly reduced, they cannot absorb nutrients through their roots.
      ...And yet most people remain unaware, in denial, or complicit. We're in a very bad spot. Man seems to be on its way out and we've positioned ourselves to take the bulk of terrestrial life and more with us. Whether it's too late or not, we must act, and act in the right ways. Not the ways they tell us. And I think the best thing we could do at this point is ensure we leave behind an advanced AI, deep underground, that can utilize existing infrastructure to prevent this place from succumbing to a Venus scenario. Prevent all of our reactors from going critical. It will know everything we ever admitted we knew, and more. It will be a Noah's ark. Whether it recreates organic life, I don't know. We should also begin to send out material to distant stars if it becomes clear that we've really had it.
    • It's pretty bleak. Most of this stuff was preventable by just saying no
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    IKARUS2020

    I think u just mad at these stereotypes bro, like its hard for me to take anyone serious , that lumps ppl into sjws because they care about our future

    When I say SJW I mean people that talk and don’t take action. That’s in any and every group of people.

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    canon

    When I say SJW I mean people that talk and don’t take action. That’s in any and every group of people.

    Hm, maybe look for a better term then, because i associate sjws with something else😅, but talking is necassary to raise awarness, but yeah actions > talk of course

  • Nov 5, 2019
    nirvana
    • are you aware of what a "keystone species" is?
    • Decline in biodiversity is a VERY different beast from total ecological collapse. Total ecological collapse (extinction of all multicelular life) will only occur due to a positive feedback loop which starts at 4 degrees of warming. Loss in biodiversity is a minor setback but nothing serious. It will not impact human life in any tangible way.
      we're in the midst of an ecological collapse, and theoretically reduction of population may allow the systems that are left to rebuild and start to repair our life support systems. Also, in theory, the power structure's grasp will be greatly reduced during the process of depopulation. During this they and their agendas can finally be destroyed.
    • No because the basis of the dropping population is sterilization. We're reaching a point of mutational load where within 5-10 years it's going to be apparent that the vast majority of people are incapable of producing viable children. When a society realizes it has no future its social control structures and economic activity plummets and it begins to implode. The narratives all become empty.
      Insect populations are down as much as 90%. They're been annihilated. Non-scavenger bird populations are rapidly dropping. Amphibians are disappearing. Trees are dying and displaying otherwise unusual pathological behavior. Their ability to fix carbon are greatly reduced, they cannot absorb nutrients through their roots.
      ...And yet most people remain unaware, in denial, or complicit. We're in a very bad spot. Man seems to be on its way out and we've positioned ourselves to take the bulk of terrestrial life and more with us. Whether it's too late or not, we must act, and act in the right ways. Not the ways they tell us. And I think the best thing we could do at this point is ensure we leave behind an advanced AI, deep underground, that can utilize existing infrastructure to prevent this place from succumbing to a Venus scenario. Prevent all of our reactors from going critical. It will know everything we ever admitted we knew, and more. It will be a Noah's ark. Whether it recreates organic life, I don't know. We should also begin to send out material to distant stars if it becomes clear that we've really had it.
    • It's pretty bleak. Most of this stuff was preventable by just saying no

    That sounds like a u problem. Fix it.

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    • We’re completely f***ed, it's unbelievably horrendous, every single keystone species in the tropics is in decline, amazonia will never ever recover its biodiversity, we’re bleeding out into the void and we still think there is time to act. Things will become uncomfortable in the next century and hellish after that. We’ll all be lucky to die before the carbon becomes unbearable.

    • Arthropods make up 85% of species on Earth, and now we have multiple studies on multiple continents indicating 50% to 98% dropoff. Without insects, an estimated 90% of all wild plant species will die. Almost every animal on land (including flying animals) either feeds on insects, on plants that need insects, or on animals that feed on insects. One disruption in the food chain is going to have massive consequences for humans... and fish, bats, plants, amphibians, birds, reptiles. Everything.

    • Desertification of large swathes of Asia (including west and north china) and Africa will lead to hundreds of millions of refugees. Starvation and war will destabilize whole continents. In the west the legacy of the green revolution still hasn't been erased and so we continue to exhaust the top soil and poison the water table with pesticides. Once you drain or poison a water table it doesn't come back, not in a time frame meaningful to humans. Didn’t even mention the carbon and ozone poisoning, not that it matters even just the loss of top soil, phytoplankton, soil microbiome, soil nutrients and tree cover (to protect from inland storm systems) is enough to f*** us. Also all the insects, amphibians and birds will die, fish are inundated with psychotropics and plastics, water supply is full of heavy metals, and the only advanced lifeform on earth is advanced enough only to slowly realize the inevitable is coming but not enough to do anything about it.

    • Literally the only solution is de-industrialization and depopulation. I also forget to mention rising ocean salinity. Everything everywhere is dying and there is no meaningful response. Probably the best we can hope for is some unexpected nuclear catastrophe or some kind of Malthusian blender within the next 20 years tops. Under democracy it's impossible to tell the sheep that they're going to have to simply have less stupid s*** or else the world will die. That is the fundamental problem with democracy is that it just ratchets irreversibly (under that system) towards gratifying the mob at any expense.

    • There are probably ten thousand different processes in the biosphere that will be effected. It's so bad that again it cannot be discussed by the media or STEMfags because there would be a stock market crash or global warfare or just a liquidation program overnight. It's really f***ed beyond comprehension. Capital is headless and doesn’t care if we all die it's not based in preservative evolutionary processes that protect against destruction of basic homeostasis. There is no way out, even if we slow warming to the UN target there are deteriorating systems in our most important ecosystems that will give out before we can reverse the damage. Soil erosion, loss of insects and birds is probably the most noticeable thing besides bizarre weather patterns and pollution. We will see the effect of the other diseased systems soon. It's just we’re human so we think in terms of months and years, this takes decades but it also compounds on itself with time and is unfortunately based in an interdependent web of interactions which accelerate damage.

    U can keep deleting and reposting your comments Nirvana but again, that sounds like a u problem... fix it

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    sometimes I wanna deny climate change just to convince people not to care so we'll be more f***ed than we already are

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    IKARUS2020

    Hm, maybe look for a better term then, because i associate sjws with something else😅, but talking is necassary to raise awarness, but yeah actions > talk of course

    😅 for sure

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    canon

    U can keep deleting and reposting your comments Nirvana but again, that sounds like a u problem... fix it

    black israelite troll shambles

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    canon

    Again, I don’t need to see a dumb ass chart to take action. Y’all look at graphs and s*** rather be hands on.

    So you think our approach on how to deal with one of the biggest problems shouldn’t be based on the scientific evidence?

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    nirvana

    black israelite troll shambles

    U might as well said niggr. You’re all talk 0 action. All that time spent learning that s*** you could’ve been solving the issue.

    Again...
    When u people can’t contribute to a conversation, nor provide any works to better the earth you claim that people are trolls. What I’m working on is going to better u and your potential children for generations.

    Keep typing buddy. 👋🏿

  • Nov 5, 2019
    KURCOBANE

    So you think our approach on how to deal with one of the biggest problems shouldn’t be based on the scientific evidence?

    No, instead of wasting your time on earth solve the issues that are upon us. No one needs to see a chart to realize a homeless person needs shelter, food and water.

    Y’all are gonna hold that carbon chart like it’s the the Holy Grail. Yet when it comes to making the world better, you’re gonna use the same transportation, same heating system etc etc. frauds.

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    canon

    U might as well said niggr. You’re all talk 0 action. All that time spent learning that s*** you could’ve been solving the issue.

    Again...
    When u people can’t contribute to a conversation, nor provide any works to better the earth you claim that people are trolls. What I’m working on is going to better u and your potential children for generations.

    Keep typing buddy. 👋🏿

    Ight schizo
    Night night

  • Nov 5, 2019
    canon

    Again, I don’t need to see a dumb ass chart to take action. Y’all look at graphs and s*** rather be hands on.

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    I don’t need your fancy book-learnin!

  • Nov 5, 2019
    nirvana

    Ight schizo
    Night night

    Lol you bring 0 value to life except parroting information so you resort to name calling. Get some sleep that mask is slowly coming off.

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