RASIE

6y

Do those individual rapist and murderers have their boots on the neck of an entire class of the population?

RASIE

6y

Isn’t it a coincidence that these inefficiencies just so happen to often show up in countries with single party governments and conwtitutions that reference Marxism-Leninism

Yeah i'd say it is a coincidence that two of the biggest countries on Earth in land size and population also happened to not have seamless revolutions at a time when America was still rooting its population into new territory, putting vagrants in prison en masse, and welcoming immigrants from China and other Eastern countries with open arms of racism and abandonment that led to the vast majority of female Chinese immigrants becoming prostitutes

I forget, did America have one or two political parties during chattel slavery and the genocide of first peoples?

There hasn’t been a great famine in China since the 20th century, no matter how bad weather conditions have been. So yeah, I think we can blame the intensity of the last one on man made decisions

All you got from that was "bad weather conditions"? Bro.

You understand that life for the poor in these more affluent service based economies is still better than life for the poor in third world agriculture and industry based countries right? The facts are modern China and America have done more to improve the living standards of their people than Maoist China or any other communist country has

deep inhale

BOIIIIIIIIIIIII

RASIE

6y

Do those individual rapist and murderers have their boots on the neck of an entire class of the population?

RASIE

6y

It a damn mouthful

And it's not exactly an inviting label for recruitment or allyship of workers, cause it just sounds (superficially) like a product of affluent education.

Idk. Whenever I read it I can't help but think about the recent trend of social identity checklist Twitter bios haha

Enpax

6y

As a collective, they mainly victimize the poor and make their lives significantly worse. Stop trying to downplay the damage they cause

Mulder

6y

I suppose that's fair. For me it just more specifically outlines someones politic

Enpax

6y

You’re so concerned about the masses but they don’t agree with you about who’s the worst elements of society

Mulder

6y

Y'all losing me now.

Rapists of a certain class, and child rapists in general do watch each others backs more often as not and protect each other.

S***traffickers have no business in societies either, and I'm not sure if these kinds of people are worthy of any reform.

It's not really fair to use them in a comparison to justify killing of landlords which often includes rapists and predators as well. Landlords in the projects offer underage girls and women to bypass rent in exchange for the obvious. More or less landlords don't need a defense squad.

RASIE

6y

@Enpax

This is an argument about the real life effects of free market policies on poverty.

You mean like those things about America I listed that you claimed didn't say anything?

It wasn’t, it was mostly because of socialist policies

Elaborate. I'm not even in full disagreement with you. I just want you to elaborate.

China’s government is engaging in the mass repression of a minority group, cool to see a socialist acknowledging that.

China's and America's government.

But once again, has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the people as a whole have higher living conditions now due to free market reforms than they did under socialism.

"Mass repression of a minority group"

Forced child labor and female wage exploitation by a full Excel spreadsheet of American corporations

"People as a whole have higher living conditions tho, dead ass"

That’s like bringing up kids in the border camps in America when talking about how economic policies are affecting the poor

I mean it would be if it wasn't for the forced child labor listed above. But I mean who cares when you have a spicy a***ogy to get across, right?

Enpax

6y

Corporations abusing their power can be checked by legislation. Central planning for goods and services inherently leads to lower quality consumer goods

Collectivizing labor has time and time again lead to an inefficient production of food, combined with policies aimed to support the rising urban class by guaranteeing them food, leaves the rural population out to starve

I don’t know why you don’t understand that life is unequivocally better for the poor in both China and America now than it was before. It doesn’t matter how many times you throw out things like police brutality or concentration camps. Those are evil, but they’re not indicative of living conditions for the majority

mirza

6y

There's no point in discussing this with people who are deeply possessed by their ideology. Yours and their value system differ so much that you're never going to reach an agreement.

They probably got screwed by life in some way, and now they're resentful. Their ideology gives them something to blame for their shortcomings, and that gives them comfort. Communists are basically the losers of economics

Instead of having this back and forth on a Kanye West forum, enjoy your life and acknowledge the fact that they already lost. A meteor wiping us all out is more likely than a communist revolution succeeding in the west lmao

mirza

6y

There's no point in discussing this with people who are deeply possessed by their ideology. Yours and their value system differ so much that you're never going to reach an agreement.

They probably got screwed by life in some way, and now they're resentful. Their ideology gives them something to blame for their shortcomings, and that gives them comfort. Communists are basically the losers of economics

Instead of having this back and forth on a Kanye West forum, enjoy your life and acknowledge the fact that they already lost. A meteor wiping us all out is more likely than a communist revolution succeeding in the west lmao

Frog

6y

my favorite

Scratchin Mamba

6y

Change thread title to kings on ktt