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  • Jun 15, 2025
    BRAVE

    It’s not too early at all it did its job as a diss record. Saying it’s too early is arbitrary

    I think everyone see's the point of why NLU is number one, but it'll forever be disputed cause of the politics behind the song, and how sites like Complex are basically forcing it's place in history.

  • Jun 15, 2025

    5 to 1 intro into Takeover is tough ngl

  • mos def 🪐
    Jun 15, 2025
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    gnarlynasty

    Ether was made in a different time, just like NLU was made in a different time. Rap politics are way different now than back then.

    Absolutely. A lotta s*** goin on in the game right now would not fly in that era

  • Hov was enjoying a nice birthday party fulls of smiles and champagne poppin, then he suddenly enters the club thinkins hes gonna get a cake and starts hearing tupac say F*** JAY Z

  • Drake was at that white party mad as f*** he heard a mustard beat 40 feet from him unable to say s*** to the white man

  • Jun 15, 2025
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    mos def

    Absolutely. A lotta s*** goin on in the game right now would not fly in that era

    Kendrick performing NLU at the Super Bowl wouldn't have been respected at all, and it's barely respected now,(I didn't like it)

  • mos def 🪐
    Jun 15, 2025
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    gnarlynasty

    Kendrick performing NLU at the Super Bowl wouldn't have been respected at all, and it's barely respected now,(I didn't like it)

    Agree to disagree brother

  • gnarlynasty

    I know NLU won the beef but, when did diss tracks become about accolades? It's just too early to call "NLU" the greatest diss records, people still talking about Dre Day/Real G'z till this day, people still discuss Ether. No one really wants to talk to you about NLU, it won the beef, but now it's an oversaturated pop song.

    Y’all try so hard to be different on here man, no one is spinning that Real G’z s*** man, they’re on there calling Dre a flaggot and other homophobic shlock

    NLU is more entertaining and engaging as a song, just because you got tired of hearing it doesn’t make it oversaturated

  • Jun 15, 2025
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    gnarlynasty

    I know NLU won the beef but, when did diss tracks become about accolades? It's just too early to call "NLU" the greatest diss records, people still talking about Dre Day/Real G'z till this day, people still discuss Ether. No one really wants to talk to you about NLU, it won the beef, but now it's an oversaturated pop song.

    No one wants to talk about NLU??

    Who in real life still want to talk about ether that much in your personal life?

  • Jun 15, 2025
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    LetHIMSortEmOut

    Wait why is takeover higher than ether

    More enjoyable song ig

    I used to be on the Takeover is better than Ether train but I relistened awhile ago and Nas was just a lot more vicious on that song compared to Takeover tbh, Takeover has some really slick lines though

  • Jun 15, 2025
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    mos def

    Agree to disagree brother

    I feel ya, but the beef turned into a PR stunt after that in my opinion. You can barely find live performances of Ether/Takeover online, Nas/Hov didn't go on Letterman to discuss their beef. Kendrick won, but under industry rules

  • Jun 15, 2025
    LetHIMSortEmOut

    Wait why is takeover higher than ether

  • ragedsycokiller

    No one wants to talk about NLU??

    Who in real life still want to talk about ether that much in your personal life?

    No one lmao, these niggas try too hard to seem cultured on here

    It’s like when niggas try to sit there and say Hit Em Up is the greatest diss track ever as if they sit through those s***ty OutLawz verses after Pac comes in

  • Complex in big 2025

  • mos def 🪐
    Jun 15, 2025
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    gnarlynasty

    I feel ya, but the beef turned into a PR stunt after that in my opinion. You can barely find live performances of Ether/Takeover online, Nas/Hov didn't go on Letterman to discuss their beef. Kendrick won, but under industry rules

    I lowkey wish Nassir got the green light to do his summer jam performance as originally intended

  • Jun 15, 2025

    Maybe they’re just saying Takeover is the better record which a lot of people have argued even though Nas won.

    Really it comes down to the beat. I mean it’s Kanye lol. Takeover beat is better than Ether.

    Ether beat sound harder to me now though.

  • Jun 15, 2025
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    mos def

    I lowkey wish Nassir got the green light to do his summer jam performance as originally intended

    Jay wasn't gonna go for that lol

  • mos def 🪐
    Jun 15, 2025
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    gnarlynasty

    Jay wasn't gonna go for that lol

    Yea it might’ve even been too morbid/controversial for hot 97

  • Jun 15, 2025

    Kendrick d*** eating at an all time high

  • Jun 15, 2025
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    mos def

    Yea it might’ve even been too morbid/controversial for hot 97

    Beef back then meant that the on-wax stuff could be dropped at any moment and took to the streets. There was real politics in this s*** and rappers had to navigate accordingly.

  • Jun 15, 2025

    “Complex’s Top…”

  • Jun 15, 2025
    gnarlynasty

    Having Ether a spot beneath Takeover This is some propaganda bullshit

    Complex stay doing this when it comes to ranking. Gets people engaged and talking.

  • mos def 🪐
    Jun 15, 2025
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    gnarlynasty

    Beef back then meant that the on-wax stuff could be dropped at any moment and took to the streets. There was real politics in this s*** and rappers had to navigate accordingly.

    Yea I was too young at the time but remember my cousins always talking about how dangerous s*** was back then compared to now

  • Back 2 back is too high

  • Jun 15, 2025
    mos def

    Yea I was too young at the time but remember my cousins always talking about how dangerous s*** was back then compared to now

    I mean, beef in Hip Hop has never been about who's the best rapper. It was always about having the most respect in the industry/streets. Kendrick turning beef into commercialism is just a sign of the times, but the Super Bowl s*** just disqualified him in so many ways.

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