Why would the western world reject America if Trump was confirmed by the courts?
don't think so, they'd probably have no choice but to work with him
Why would the western world reject America if Trump was confirmed by the courts?
It's no longer a democracy at that point: even with how unfair electoral college is, that is a form of democracy.
If the people voted one way, and they elect someone else thats just a dictatorship and a totalitarian regime. The world is not going to accept USA becoming a dictatorship without it causing huge chaos first. Tank the US economy (and even most of the worlds) overnight .
It's no longer a democracy at that point: even with how unfair electoral college is, that is a form of democracy.
If the people voted one way, and they elect someone else thats just a dictatorship and a totalitarian regime. The world is not going to accept USA becoming a dictatorship without it causing huge chaos first. Tank the US economy (and even most of the worlds) overnight .
Ok true
But he’ll bring it to the packed court + bribe faithless electors
He has nothing to bring is what I was trying to say. There's literally zero evidence of wide-spread fraud.
It's over man.
As for the electors, mouderine made really good points in this thread.
He has nothing to bring is what I was trying to say. There's literally zero evidence of wide-spread fraud.
It's over man.
As for the electors, mouderine made really good points in this thread.
But the republicans aren’t letting Biden begin the transition
cnn.com/2020/11/09/politics/ascertainment-trump-biden-transition/index.html
To put it in perspective there were more faithless electors for Hillary in 2016 (8 total 5 validated and 3 invalidated) than there were for Trump (only 2 total) even though Hillary won the popular vote
If Trump can do it then he can 100% do it now on a much larger scale
Trump can do it again by sending rival conservative electors to compete with democrats and flip the count in his favor
if theres two slates of electors in one state i think it would end up in supreme court unless dems flip senate, but in the end only 1 slate would be allowed.
but in no state rn is it really close enough or there enough evidence of fraud that i really think it would work, because there would probably be lawsuits to get that second erroneous slate dismissed, and if it ends up in supreme court its so clear biden has won the states it has it just seems kinda a done deal. i think sending a second slate really only works if the state's numbers are genuinely ??????, because by law each state sends 1 slate of electors picked however the state legislature has decided (and basically everyone has decided state popular vote, also written up in law). pennsylvania, at least, has already said they're sending whoever wins the popular vote and that's it.
i think theres also a very small chance to the point of impossibility of there being enough faithless electors to do anything, as i think 33 states or so have laws allowing replacement of faithless electors until a good one comes along, and i think democrats are willing to do anything to get trump out and would not simply jeopardize trumps loss by voting someone else. perhaps we'll see one or two faithless delegates that were supposed to vote trump, but i don't think it'll happen for dems
I think that’s what Trump is banking on at this point but it sounds so far fetched and would cause such pandemonium
Like I can’t imagine reading a headline that Trump invalidated the election and is now president
I think that’s what Trump is banking on at this point but it sounds so far fetched and would cause such pandemonium
Like I can’t imagine reading a headline that Trump invalidated the election and is now president
Yeah I legit had a panic attack an hour ago about this
People I know are scared af I’m scared that the proud boys are gonna find ballots of Biden supporters & kill us
Yeah I legit had a panic attack an hour ago about this
People I know are scared af I’m scared that the proud boys are gonna find ballots of Biden supporters & kill us
I don’t think you realistically have to be worried about being hunted down like that. I think the violence will only come down to people being in public. If Trump concedes but still insists the election was stolen, then you May start seeing Trump supporters rioting and s***. At those riots, if people are coming to protest against them, that’s where the violence will break out.
Likewise, if Trump does use the courts to steal the election, you’ll have the same scenario but the sides will be flipped. Trump supporters rn believe the election was stolen, but that Trump will end up taking it back. I’ve seen quite a few comments about “using their second amendment” if the election isn’t “taken back”.
I’m a little nervous to see if they’re really about it or not. I like to think they aren’t, but... idk
I don’t think you realistically have to be worried about being hunted down like that. I think the violence will only come down to people being in public. If Trump concedes but still insists the election was stolen, then you May start seeing Trump supporters rioting and s***. At those riots, if people are coming to protest against them, that’s where the violence will break out.
Likewise, if Trump does use the courts to steal the election, you’ll have the same scenario but the sides will be flipped. Trump supporters rn believe the election was stolen, but that Trump will end up taking it back. I’ve seen quite a few comments about “using their second amendment” if the election isn’t “taken back”.
I’m a little nervous to see if they’re really about it or not. I like to think they aren’t, but... idk
Thing is the proud boys & qanon will go and kill liberal rioters
The proud boys already said there done standing down
Yeah I legit had a panic attack an hour ago about this
People I know are scared af I’m scared that the proud boys are gonna find ballots of Biden supporters & kill us
lmfaoooo yall gotta chill out
I think that’s what Trump is banking on at this point but it sounds so far fetched and would cause such pandemonium
Like I can’t imagine reading a headline that Trump invalidated the election and is now president
keeping in mind that it is a longshot to begin with, i wonder if the supreme court would factor in the social ramifications in the decision making process cities would literally burn
Yeah I legit had a panic attack an hour ago about this
People I know are scared af I’m scared that the proud boys are gonna find ballots of Biden supporters & kill us
Thing is the proud boys & qanon will go and kill liberal rioters
The proud boys already said there done standing down
A lot of 'em are too p**** to actually do anything though, just keep that in mind. I do recommend keeping an eye out and having a form of protection (be it a gun or something you don't need ammunition for) just to be on the safe side, but I wouldn't particularly start losing your grip right now
There will be a catastrophic event before inauguration. We'll be on standby mode. National guard will be called in. Nobody can leave their homes because the virus has mutated. Walmarts will get turned into fema camps. Trump will remain president. Then we will hear trumpets 🎺
keeping in mind that it is a longshot to begin with, i wonder if the supreme court would factor in the social ramifications in the decision making process cities would literally burn
The Supreme Court already said earlier this year they don’t want to interfere with the electoral college(pre-acb) & states can punish faithless electors
cnn.com/2020/07/06/politics/faithless-electors-supreme-court/index.html
Trump really thinks a court that wants to keep electoral college valid is gonna overrule it
A lot of 'em are too p**** to actually do anything though, just keep that in mind. I do recommend keeping an eye out and having a form of protection (be it a gun or something you don't need ammunition for) just to be on the safe side, but I wouldn't particularly start losing your grip right now
I can’t my gun rights havent been restored (while nother story lol)
I can’t my gun rights havent been restored (while nother story lol)