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  • Jul 8, 2025
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    Giordano

    The first 5 years of the 20’s hasn’t given us classics unlike the first 5 years of the 10’s

    ‘Not Like Us’ is pretty much the only classic song of the 20’s.

    Easy to say when ur in the moment dude that’s not true there’s no era where someone in 10 years be like yea there were NO classics here

  • hella mainstream rappers fell off after covid

  • Jul 8, 2025

    A lot of influential artists died right before Covid, which were friends with all those people you named. Plus a lot of them also got older and that changes a lot how you move also. Also tik tok started making artists do only catchy or corny songs

  • Jul 8, 2025

    No organic superstars. New artists also just don't have the longevity anymore

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    Jul 8, 2025
    pepsi phil

    not really

  • Jul 8, 2025
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    Andre Jaquet

    Easy to say when ur in the moment dude that’s not true there’s no era where someone in 10 years be like yea there were NO classics here

    By the time 2015 came we had MBDTF, Take Care, GKMC, Channel Orange, Wolf, Doris, WMWTSO, Yeezus, NWTS, Piñata and that’s just to name a few

    What about 20’s? I just think of Donda, GNX and Pray for Paris

  • Jul 8, 2025
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    Perpetual

    I feel hip hop has never been the same since post covid. I remember in the 2010s especially leading up to covid there was so much diversity in music. You had playlist and parties going through so many different artists and styles of hip hop. The "lils" and XXL artists all were "carrying" the wave while the A list artists like the Drakes/Kendricks/Travis'/Futures, etc. still were the foundation to fall back on. Every week felt like there was some sort of new song or project that was coming out from this bucket of new artists as well as each year being sprinkled plenty with these A list artists. Now these new XXL artists are nobodies, the ones before are still holding onto some relevance and the industry is being supported by a few releases a year from these A list artists. Is hip hop really dead in terms of out reach and diversity?

    Covid stopped the youth movement that was very big at the time.
    The boomers got the youth back in line and the youth movement never got back to what it was.

  • Jul 8, 2025
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    Giordano

    By the time 2015 came we had MBDTF, Take Care, GKMC, Channel Orange, Wolf, Doris, WMWTSO, Yeezus, NWTS, Piñata and that’s just to name a few

    What about 20’s? I just think of Donda, GNX and Pray for Paris

    If you told someone in 2014 that Doris, wolf, yeezus and watching movies with the sound off were classics other than a select few you would mostly he met with disagreement or people calling you insane. It’s not like those were super beloved super commercially successful wildly influential instant classics.

    We don’t know what the classics are yet because the time hasn’t passed. I would def say my list of classics tho. But yea I mean covid changed all the world including the music industry doesn’t mean we don’t have classics so far.

    Whole lotta red, GNX, pray for Paris, a great chaos, wanna, mr morale, Up 2 Me, forever story, her loss, pray 4 Haiti, meet the woo 2 are all argued for being classics by people and I may agree with most of it. You’re in the current era so it’s very hard to determine a classic as your idea too of a classic fundamentally has to be rooted in time passing. Whole lotta red is the most obviously true one ofc

    ESPECIALLY IF YOUR TALKING SONGS

  • Jul 8, 2025
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    MyLeftBrain

    Covid stopped the youth movement that was very big at the time.
    The boomers got the youth back in line and the youth movement never got back to what it was.

    What youth movement?

  • Jul 8, 2025
    internet buddy

    What youth movement?

    Exactly

  • Jul 8, 2025
    Jbreezyondeck

    Curious as to why you think Covid specifically was the catalyst? I honestly think Covid brought a lot of good to hip hop as we got a lot of good projects, revisited older projects, had versus events etc

  • Jul 8, 2025
    Water Giver

    Covid changed many industries.

    But yeah, Rap has been down to 40% in total revenue this decade compared to 2010s and labels have been moving away from creating major Rappers. There are also way less hits and top 40 entries after Covid. It is not just a generational thing, the general audience feels overall the same.

    Rap would literally not be profitable in the 2020s if it wasnt for Kendrick, Drake, Travis, Future & Tyler. They are legitimately holding the entire industry up on a mainstream and profit level.

    Algorithms are shifting from Rap to a degree too. And labels have switched to supporting and finding Country, Electronic and Dancehall artists (n of course Pop but that was always aside Rap). It is not the main priority anymore, but I also don't think HipHop will fully die anytime soon. Although I do think it's going through it's last lap this decade before it fizzles out, like what happened to Rock in the 2000s. If something doesn't change.

    On a personal note without all the statistics and label exec interviews jargon - I hate how not caring about the genre and not trying became popular. Before it was only like Uzi saying it to piss people off, but now it's a legit thought literally said out the mouths of most Rappers trying to be purposely mainstream.

    And a sidenote: I haven't looked closely at it like with Rap, but RnB seem to be even in a sadder state atm, unfortunately.

    We are in due time for a new, counter cultural music movement

  • Jul 8, 2025

    It was obvious we'd end up here since like 2014. Those trap drums starting to infiltrate the music of more established artists, everything sounding the same, lyrics becoming simpler and simpler

    But it's only the mainstream that really is this way imo. There's more options out there than ever, there's somebody making the exact kind of music you f*** with. You just gotta find them

  • Jul 8, 2025

    And we'd be in a completely different place if the next generation didn't lose so many of their stars. XXX, Pop Smoke, Juice Wrld. Part of the reason why early 10s rappers still some of the biggest stars

  • Jul 14, 2025
    halleys comet

    covid,tour money drying up,tiktok,young stars of soundcloud era dying

    all added up

  • Jul 14, 2025

    Labels make superstars and superstars must not be as profitable in the current landscape or else we would have more