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  • irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-originated-naturally-and-not-in-lab-virologists-conclude-1.4615247

    "Covid-19 emerged naturally and is not is the product of an accidental leak from a Chinese laboratory, according to a team of internationally-regarded virologists, following a review of all available evidence.

    The finding – the second in a less than a week to declare the virus a natural phenomenon – dismisses the possibility that the virus escaped from a Wuhan laboratory in China, where Sars-CoV-2 was first detected.

    It backs up the findings of other experts outlined in a letter to the Lancet medical journal.

    The 23 scientists – including Prof Edward Holmes, who first shared the Sars-CoV-2 genetic map known as a genome with Chinese colleagues in January 2020; Wellcome Trust director Sir Jeremy Farrar and leading US virologist Dr Angela Rasmussen – assessed the evidence including genetic indications.

    Their findings were released as “a pre-print” study which is due to be submitted to a research journal in coming days.

    “There is currently no evidence that Sars-CoV-2 has a laboratory origin . . . There is a substantial body of scientific evidence supporting a zoonotic animal-to-human origin for Sars-CoV-2,” they conclude.

    The epidemiological history of the virus “is comparable to previous animal market-associated outbreaks of coronaviruses with a simple route for human exposure”, they add.

    Contact tracing to markets in Wuhan “exhibits striking similarities” with early spread of the original SARS-CoV virus at markets in Guangdong, China, where it “spilled over into humans”.

    By definition, this selects for viruses “able to infect humans”, they noted, whereas “laboratory escapes” known to date have “almost exclusively” involved viruses being investigated because of their known human infectivity”

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    I saw some conspiracies thrown around lately. Figured this would be good for the community

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    some people on this site aint gonna like hearing this

  • iCarly Japan

    some people on this site aint gonna like hearing this

    Yeah I was seeing alot of those rumors bubbling up lately

  • In on the first page for shambles

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    That’s more disturbing than if it were created in a lab

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    Sorry OP I don't trust the Irish times

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    Regardless if this is factual people aren’t going to run with it lol

  • Irish times bru

  • Fake news.

  • Jul 10
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    theyre gonna go back and forth on this several more times.

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    Tyler1999

    Sorry OP I don't trust the Irish times

    bbc.com/news/science-environment-57782955

    Note: this still needs to be peer reviewed but this is their initial conclusion

  • Bo Ceephus

    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-57782955

    Note: this still needs to be peer reviewed but this is their initial conclusion

    Trust the Brits even less.

    I was joking but that sentiment is definitely on here

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    alright i'll bite. i think this s*** was made in a lab.

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    u ok jay

    alright i'll bite. i think this s*** was made in a lab.

    I think we should wait a little more until the investigations are done. But so far it's leaning towards it being natural

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    FlyMx

    That’s more disturbing than if it were created in a lab

    Right, I'd rather this s*** be a designer virus than a force of nature. That means it will happen again out of our control and could be even worse

  • Jul 10

    Eastern propaganda!!

  • OG Dorito

    Right, I'd rather this s*** be a designer virus than a force of nature. That means it will happen again out of our control and could be even worse

    Yeah that is scary. Maybe once we understand it more we will be able to find ways to prevent these type of diseases more easily

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    Bo Ceephus

    I think we should wait a little more until the investigations are done. But so far it's leaning towards it being natural

    this is why i believe that it was made in a lab. it has almost completely convinced me. if you haven't seen, please take a look. not being facetious here.

    project-evidence.github.io/?fbclid=IwAR0Fh_NGcSQfI-La4gnng_QAgFeO38ayahExywrbybu20qldYACOfYJYcRQ

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    lmao f*** all the conspiracy s*** but im sorry aint no way im believing a new souped up coronavirus that was first detected right next door to the biggest coronavirus lab the world originated naturally until they discover a natural host that disputes a lab leak theory

  • Bo Ceephus

    I think we should wait a little more until the investigations are done. But so far it's leaning towards it being natural

    Honestly I think the coincidences line up just a little too perfectly, I'm still on the fence but it doesn't change anything either way

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