all these dudes jus jay's kids, grand kids, or great grand kids

every NY rapper's hero is Jay or Nas

Only if you’re bad at looking
And once you find it it’s all listenable unlike many of today’s rappers

you gotta understand that casual music fans aren't gonna go beyond streaming or like DatPiff

and idk about it all being listenable but he's a good rapper for sure

I’m done bro lol.tou just like Jay bro. You got it

By that logic jay is just grand master flash spawn

grand master flash ain't relevant anymore. Jay been relevant for over 20 years fam. He will always have reach

Oh my god. He reminds me of pusha t. He makes every line a face screwer

He doesn’t make the music for casual fans that’s his whole angle. Some could consider that mysterious. I just think it’s the smart way to release music in the streaming era

huh I am just saying that Jay's longevity is unmatched. Nas last 2 projects have been abysmal even though in his prime he was Jay level, if not even better as a rapper.

if it was the smart way he'd have more fans

The father of hiphop ain’t relevant?

You're missing the point fam.

when the last time you heard somebody say "damn bro, grand master flash killed that s***!"?

Ain’t about that. He literally birthed the most popular genre of music in history. He’s as far removed from jay as jay is from any other rapper outside of NYC

KA also had easier beats to ride on. I would give Hov the edge just for that

Hov was a feature. He didn’t choose his beats. I can’t give him best rapper off five features. KA lyrically was way better than Hov.

That's not the point though. Grand Master Flash has no relevancy, therefore he never defined anything past his era.

Jay been on top for over 20 years. He has done so many different styles and been dominant in those styles. Every NY rapper is always looking at Jay as an influence. Nas as well because he pretty much defined that core NY rap sound.

Les be real, Jay Z made those songs sound like they were his

Bro stop talking to me. You are a stan lol. Im good on the back and forth. It’s obvious your biased lol. So I’m good.

Ok random cornball

I mean, I'm not but ight. Thats like me calling you a Ka stan because you are willing to overlook that Ka lacks a lot in versatility as an MC when you say hes the best rapper.

Not to mention, I said Descendents of Cain is better than AWT and its even one of my fav rap albums oty. But I would honestly take Future or Thug over him because they are far more dynamic and versatile as rappers.

Yeah Ka had better lyrics and concept. Hov was better technically. So I guess it depends on how everyone sees it

HOV is the GOAT