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  • May 28

    Kid f***ed up when he went on that Twitter rant acting like he was bout to drop sumn that would change the sound like a DBR, LLA, SFG

    Or that he was dropping something pivotal and subversive like an 808s and TPAB

    Capped his own knee to everyone that wasn't already on board lol

  • May 28
    zenirama

    Hiphopheads posting

    Ironic because y'all try to attribute hiphophead rules and accolades to people that aren't even in the realm

    Snatching communities while making fun of them

  • May 28
    raps

    “Hiphopheads” being an insult now is why niggas be asking what happened to rap lol

    Rap has been ruined on the backs of niggas trying so hard to be cool

    I think it's fine to clown hiphopheads if you really not on that

    But these desperates be clowning hiphopheads while trying to bigup their artist with the same rhetoric, terminology and culture of hiphopheads lol

    Pick a lane

  • May 28
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    Another thing both sides in this thread are missing tho lol

    Almost all lyrics read as s***, and even worst without any context - it will always come off wrong when read straight up

  • May 28
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    Water Giver

    Another thing both sides in this thread are missing tho lol

    Almost all lyrics read as s***, and even worst without any context - it will always come off wrong when read straight up

    Not true

  • May 28
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    Benny Boy

    Not true

    I wanna f*** you hard on the sink
    After that, give you something to drink

  • eversince

    I wanna f*** you hard on the sink
    After that, give you something to drink

    Reads fine. Lot of personality in that

  • May 28
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    Benny Boy

    Not true

    Highly disagree

    You need some kind of context to begin with, even poetry does that

    And personally I have never read lyrics straight up that is just plain text on a post and thought of it by itself as crazy - part of why "YouTube comment" Rap comes off goofy, or why artists that post lyrics ahead of a song on like twitter back in the day like from weeknd, frank, Drake, Kendrick, wale etc. wasn't insane but the song and/or context changes it

  • May 28
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    Water Giver

    Highly disagree

    You need some kind of context to begin with, even poetry does that

    And personally I have never read lyrics straight up that is just plain text on a post and thought of it by itself as crazy - part of why "YouTube comment" Rap comes off goofy, or why artists that post lyrics ahead of a song on like twitter back in the day like from weeknd, frank, Drake, Kendrick, wale etc. wasn't insane but the song and/or context changes it

    U hatin breh breh its ok

  • May 28
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    Water Giver

    Another thing both sides in this thread are missing tho lol

    Almost all lyrics read as s***, and even worst without any context - it will always come off wrong when read straight up

    nah it just depends on how you approach reading them based on prior context

    you can see someone type “Jesus” and “God” somewhere in the bar and think oh brother here we go, but once you exit the misconception you might go actually hold up, bruh talking i just didn’t like how i read it at first lmfao

  • May 28
    whitegirl

    U hatin breh breh its ok

    This is actually a defense

    Someone says itt Mink says bullshit

    Someone posts his lyrics without any context, most of the time their own post is in pieces and not even formatted correctly

    Then the person clowns them

    • it's not interesting to the hater because it's straight up disconnected plain text, and it's not as interesting as it is to the fan because it's straight up disconnected plain text
  • May 28
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    Water Giver

    Highly disagree

    You need some kind of context to begin with, even poetry does that

    And personally I have never read lyrics straight up that is just plain text on a post and thought of it by itself as crazy - part of why "YouTube comment" Rap comes off goofy, or why artists that post lyrics ahead of a song on like twitter back in the day like from weeknd, frank, Drake, Kendrick, wale etc. wasn't insane but the song and/or context changes it

    There is writing that reads better out loud or sounds better in the context of music. There is writing that is actually worse under those same conditions. And there absolutely is writing which is undeniable on the page.

    And songwriting is a bigger picture than lyrics. It's concept. It's structure. It's tone management. It's narrative. Kendrick Lamar is a better songwriter than he is a lyricist. A lot of lyrical rappers couldn't write a song to save their life.

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    great songwriting is so underrated. u are absolutely spitting , it is more than just lyrics

  • May 28
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    Valentine

    nah it just depends on how you approach reading them based on prior context

    you can see someone type “Jesus” and “God” somewhere in the bar and think oh brother here we go, but once you exit the misconception you might go actually hold up, bruh talking i just didn’t like how i read it at first lmfao

    Yeah but the key phrase is prior context

    Ppl itt aren't even formatted lyrics correctly here so the flow of reading is already botched

    Then your disconnected from the context of the subject, not only the music and tone itself, but also just that you're getting snippets of text and not the whole

    Poetry and technical song lyric writing have formats for a reason and a set up of their paper - something plain text, and especially disconnected and shuffled plain text, will never convince a hater or stand out to a neutral

    There are exceptions to the rule but this is why this always falls flat in most casual internet discussions

  • May 28
    Benny Boy

    There is writing that reads better out loud or sounds better in the context of music. There is writing that is actually worse under those same conditions. And there absolutely is writing which is undeniable on the page.

    And songwriting is a bigger picture than lyrics. It's concept. It's structure. It's tone management. It's narrative. Kendrick Lamar is a better songwriter than he is a lyricist. A lot of lyrical rappers couldn't write a song to save their life.

    This i agree with but i guess my main point is moreso the presentation of said writing and information

    Which is why it works in a poetry and technical context, but in loose casual conversation where it is properly conveyed is why it glazed over most people eyes and brain - and this isn't even getting into the self made "meta context" of a conversation like this to begin with, of where you are already at opposition with each other and it is being seen as a "impress me" competition thus you are on a losing foot from the start even with technical skill of format and presentation

    But overall, just why I think this angle never works in these kinds of plain text "debates" - all context is lost, all presentation n format is lost, and overall it's just a pissing and teasing contest

  • May 28
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    Water Giver

    Yeah but the key phrase is prior context

    Ppl itt aren't even formatted lyrics correctly here so the flow of reading is already botched

    Then your disconnected from the context of the subject, not only the music and tone itself, but also just that you're getting snippets of text and not the whole

    Poetry and technical song lyric writing have formats for a reason and a set up of their paper - something plain text, and especially disconnected and shuffled plain text, will never convince a hater or stand out to a neutral

    There are exceptions to the rule but this is why this always falls flat in most casual internet discussions

    that’s fair, I guess the context in a YouTube lyric would be the beat you’re hearing lol

  • May 28
    eversince

    great songwriting is so underrated. u are absolutely spitting , it is more than just lyrics

    I can't count for s*** but u bet with language arts i always killed it - part of why every 3rd post of mine is a major yap fest

  • May 28
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    I ain't really like the album that much but these lyrics was legit hard to me idc

    I'm with Juno, countin' up blue notes
    So many cards in my wallet like Uno
    Tryna get high, man, I really feel too low
    Turn the other cheek 'cause I know something that you don't
    Really make this rap s*** look so easy
    Now all these British teens really wanna be me
    Made my own beats, now they calling me Yeezy
    Young millionaire, man, I feel like Weezy

    He be spitting when the lyrics don't sound like you walking into hot topic

  • May 28
    Valentine

    that’s fair, I guess the context in a YouTube lyric would be the beat you’re hearing lol

    Yeah and u don't know the flow or the cadence and coming it up on the fly

    Above tho to Benny I think I wrangled out my overall thought and breakdown 💀

  • Mr Fitz

    I ain't really like the album that much but these lyrics was legit hard to me idc

    I'm with Juno, countin' up blue notes
    So many cards in my wallet like Uno
    Tryna get high, man, I really feel too low
    Turn the other cheek 'cause I know something that you don't
    Really make this rap s*** look so easy
    Now all these British teens really wanna be me
    Made my own beats, now they calling me Yeezy
    Young millionaire, man, I feel like Weezy

    He be spitting when the lyrics don't sound like you walking into hot topic

    this song fire but thats from tha teaser ep

  • May 28
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    fatemink is awful

    PureSnow is x10 better

    just play forever and youll understand

  • May 28
    youngfaygosuperfan

    fatemink is awful

    PureSnow is x10 better

    just play forever and youll understand

    Self admitted fakemink clone

  • May 28
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    Benny Boy

    What’s this

  • Water Giver

    Ironic because ASAP actually did what this kid is trying to fake doing with having a sound that changes the landscape

    I think slightly different

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