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  • Dec 1, 2022
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    ye this site has turned into DrakeToThe with these takes, LR is a better rap album than anything drake has put out in his entire career

  • Dec 1, 2022
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    Culprit

    this is facts and not debatable

    Kanye is my favorite artist ever but this is delusion

  • Dec 1, 2022
    WRF

    Then why did Kanye say Drake raps him into a trash can? And why did he say he wishes Drake could write for him and him having 12 writers is equal to 1 Drake? And why did he say Drake is the greatest rapper ever?

    Stick to the "he has better albums" thing. Kanye is not close to Drake at rapping, if he can admit it you should too

    You can go fishing for Kanye compliments of other artist. He’s always extreme in his praise.

  • Dec 1, 2022
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    shaleirose

    Kanye is my favorite artist ever but this is delusion

    na, ya'll are using recency bias when comparing their rap abilities

  • Dec 1, 2022

    So many chains they call me Chaining Tatum
    Or whatever the f*** he said

  • Dec 1, 2022
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    shaleirose

    Anyone in here trying to argue that Kanye’s a better technically skilled rapper than Drake is delusional

    The appeal of Kanye’s music has never been his strength as a lyricist/MC, whereas Drake’s main appeal is his penmanship and songwriting ability

    So I guess "songwriting ability" is up for debate considering who knows who wrote what for Ye (and Drake ) but if you're saying the overall songwriting in Drake's music is better than the overall songwriting in Ye's music... no!

  • Dec 1, 2022
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    Culprit

    na, ya'll are using recency bias when comparing their rap abilities

    No one is using recency bias, Drake has been a gifted rapper/songwriter his entire career, that’s why people listen to him.

    Kanye was strong as a lyricist from 2004-2011, and even then he always had a team of writers surrounding him helping him on every album. There’s nothing wrong with that, but you can’t totally attribute those albums 100% to him from a writing perspective

  • Dec 1, 2022
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    shaleirose

    No one is using recency bias, Drake has been a gifted rapper/songwriter his entire career, that’s why people listen to him.

    Kanye was strong as a lyricist from 2004-2011, and even then he always had a team of writers surrounding him helping him on every album. There’s nothing wrong with that, but you can’t totally attribute those albums 100% to him from a writing perspective

    IYRTITL is drakes best album and had ghost writers for damn near every track.

  • Dec 1, 2022
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    ANTI

    So I guess "songwriting ability" is up for debate considering who knows who wrote what for Ye (and Drake ) but if you're saying the overall songwriting in Drake's music is better than the overall songwriting in Ye's music... no!

    That’s not what I’m saying either.

    Songwriting extends beyond the words and rapping ability, songwriting is the overall structure of the song and the music and Kanye has always excelled at that.

    I’m talking solely about Drake’s pen.

    The reason why Kanye doesn’t write songs for other people is because that’s not his strength.

    The reason why Drake does write songs for other people people is because that’s what he excels at.

  • Dec 1, 2022
    Culprit

    IYRTITL is drakes best album and had ghost writers for damn near every track.

    1. You’re referring to Quentin Miller, who was credited on 4/17 songs

    2. It’s not ghostwriting if the writer is credited

    3. Quentin worked with Drake on one project, whereas Kanye’s writers have been working with him his entire solo career since day one

    If you wanna exclude IYRTITL from the argument of Drake being a great rapper, fine, but if we’re playing by those rules literally no Ye album can be counted since he has writing help on every single project

  • Dec 1, 2022
    shaleirose

    That’s not what I’m saying either.

    Songwriting extends beyond the words and rapping ability, songwriting is the overall structure of the song and the music and Kanye has always excelled at that.

    I’m talking solely about Drake’s pen.

    The reason why Kanye doesn’t write songs for other people is because that’s not his strength.

    The reason why Drake does write songs for other people people is because that’s what he excels at.

    Nah I mostly agree. I was just making sure you weren't saying the songwriting in Drake's music is stronger.

  • Dec 1, 2022
    2words

    You sound really stupid comparing that verse to Lil Baby, just makes it seem like you’re not listening

    Lil Baby has never rapped anything like that lol

    The rapid fire “cmb pnd bnb” scheme is leagues above most of Ye’s rapping

    Lil baby has plenty of verses better than that.

    Like i said leave the virgin technicality bullshit to Eminem stans

  • Dec 1, 2022
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    Love/hate him he’s absolutely f***ing right

    Kanye - Best Hip Hop artist of all time

    Jay - Best overall rapper of all time

    Drake - most successful (stats wise) rapper of all time

    Eminem - best technical rapper of all time

    Lupe - best lyricist of all time

  • Dec 1, 2022

    I wake up and this thread was turned into a drake thread practically, I f***ing hate it here

    The video wasn’t even bout the s*** being argued in here

  • 2words

    Literally worlds ahead yes

    Soulja boy is unironically worlds ahead of ye as a rapper

    All this post tells me is that you don't know rap.

  • We Didnt Like That

    I guess you forgot even Ye himself has said Drake raps him into a trash can. If he can admit it so can we let's not act like Drake ain't just drop Her Loss this year

    If you're referring to the Drink Champs interview, Ye did not say this

  • Dec 1, 2022
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    kusa

    ye this site has turned into DrakeToThe with these takes, LR is a better rap album than anything drake has put out in his entire career

    we all know the nigga has the best discography ever, nobody is arguing against that. to say he’s a better rapper is delusional

  • Dec 1, 2022
    BIG STEPPER Ab

    we all know the nigga has the best discography ever, nobody is arguing against that. to say he’s a better rapper is delusional

    no tf its not drake is a better rapper yet he has not made a better rap album than late registration.

  • He sound fuking stupid saying kanye wasn’t a top rapper tho or not even top 20 wtf lmao

  • Chubby Gambino

    "Of course Kanye can't rap like Drake or Jay-Z"
    Bruh, the d***riding

    Right ye and hov neck and neck when it comes to classics. Drake don’t even come close tho

  • Dec 1, 2022
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    We Didnt Like That

    I guess you forgot even Ye himself has said Drake raps him into a trash can. If he can admit it so can we let's not act like Drake ain't just drop Her Loss this year

    Kanye is also a bipolar black nazi now who would take his opinion serious in 2022 lmao that man is bat s*** crazy

  • Mmm Hmm 😈
    Dec 1, 2022

    Prime rapping Kanye easily destroys Jay-Z and Drake

    No cal

  • Mmm Hmm 😈
    Dec 1, 2022
    BIG STEPPER Ab

    drake is several leagues above ye in that aspect. it’s not even close.

    not to say (prime) kanye couldn’t possibly get the better of him on a song, but current drake is a better rapper than ye has EVER been

    Ur legit tripping son

    Tie ur shoes

  • Mmm Hmm 😈
    Dec 1, 2022
    WRF

    Then why did Kanye say Drake raps him into a trash can? And why did he say he wishes Drake could write for him and him having 12 writers is equal to 1 Drake? And why did he say Drake is the greatest rapper ever?

    Stick to the "he has better albums" thing. Kanye is not close to Drake at rapping, if he can admit it you should too

    It you believe Kanye saying that.

    Then you should believe everything else he says

  • Mmm Hmm 😈
    Dec 1, 2022
    2words

    Gorgeous is an outlier in terms of rap ability, it’s one of Ye’s only verses that can help him in this convo

    New day is a good concept but not better from a rap perspective than drakes rich flex verse

    Nigga said rich flex