As I grew up, it was clear that letting emotions pervade during an argument only served to compromise the integrity of your message

People who aren't familiar with this see it as condescension, which it tends to eventually turn into anyways

My gf has thrown several fits of rage over this "sociopathic/borderline autistic" trait, most of the time to admit she was wrong in retrospect

She claimed "The average person is not able to stop emotions influencing their arguments", and that it was a lofty & unrealistic thing for me to expect

I've seen this in employers, friends, and family and it's a surefire way to waste air and time

With this being said, do you think emotions have their place in arguments? Is there any value there?

Of course they do. It is more or less impossible to remove emotion completely from arguments as we are human beings. You have to be a robot or have a disorder to be able to do that, I am pretty sure, haha.

If you are trying to make an argument to support a claim, then eliminating emotion and supporting it with scientific method evidence is going to be the best.

But if we are having an argument with our significant other about our relationship, emotion absolutely matters. Trying to use logic and scientific evidence is not going to be the best move when my wife is pissed that I forgot to take the trash out for the fifth time without her asking 😅

Great response, but just to clarify this isn't about relationship arguments, just arguments in general

There’s no value in letting emotions control your actionsand thoughts. If you can’t have a reasonable level headed argument with someone then you already lost.

Letting your emotions run wild just makes you look like a clown and ruins your logical thought process so your points and counterpoints fall off. Eventually you just start raising your voice just to raise your voice. Then you get madder because the other person is chill and you know you’re losing. It’s not good to be overly happy and euphoric either. Then you’re just looking at everything with idealistic rose tinted glasses and missing what’s really going on.

To sum up

Where else can I cry and yell and throw a fit

Depends on the argument

But in general, using emotional vigor to inspire passionate, intelligent arguments is fantastic. But arguing on the basis of emotions themselves tends to be a bit flimsy in more "objective" arguments

If you're guiding your argument through emotions, then you'll look silly. If you're passionate about something and back it up, it's a lot more credible.

Good luck stopping a woman from her emotions

well emotions control how we perceive and interact with the entire world around us, so yeah i guess they have a place

Yeah, that's never happening with my girl and I don't expect it to

Just glad she recognizes it

Carly Rae Jepsen

Yeah but you still have to be factual or at least productive in the argument

Or else its a fight

emotions and the thinking process are compliments

prioritisation of one involves suppression of the other

emotions and feelings give the framing and signal that logic works off

it is best to include both iron logic and reason and emotional consideration in any discussion

you sound weird op

Facts don’t care about your feelings type thread

only debate bros think that being emotionally invested in a discussion is a negative, especially when what's being argued affects you directly/indirectly

very good point. reality is, when partners are arguing over something it can many times boil down to parties arguing about an emotion itself. we tend to be good at presenting other "things" as the culprit of a disagreement, when it is really a certain emotion was impacted by an action. like if a partner does something that hurts your ego or triggers some past trauma (just making s*** up), it is not like we are going to have a facts > feelings convo.... someone legit got their feelings hurt - let's talk about it!! haha

Yeah bro… all human motivation is essentially emotional in nature

There’s even a perspective that I think suggests we form conclusions from the jump based on emotions and simply use intellect to rationalize those conclusions. Meaning all our positions simply boil down to emotional preferences.

No you have to be a robot

To an extent, your emotions aren't wrong if you feel some type of way you feel some type of way for a reason. If you're angry sad or whatever you feel that way for a reason and you should probably act on it. But that doesn't necessarily mean you should throw a fit of rage maybe you should step outside for 15-20 minutes go for a walk have a smoke etc... Whatever you need to do to calm down and a***yze the situation and try to understand why you feel the way you do and decide how to move forward to address the issue.

Not for you. For her, yes. If you both got emotional maybe things would escalate. Be grateful for that. It can also come off as smug or passive aggressive, so her frustration might just be her feeling patronized or not taken seriously.

Pathos