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  • if there was like a binary on the cerebral experience of picking up on hundreds of nuanced micro decisions vs just simply vibing . . . where do U fall?

    do u think about the references, literary devices, mixing techniques as conscious decisions to chew on mentally

    or u just levitating in the sonic bed of swelling 808s & shimmering synthesiser sounds lighting up ur lizard ass synapses like a Christmas tree

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    We just vibing to the music b

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    I'm levitating

  • Jul 23, 2021
    le epic poster xD

    I'm levitating

  • Jul 23, 2021

    no kendrick lamar fans in the chat tonight

  • Jul 23, 2021

    different artists get different expectations

    so yes

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    inb4 Americana types 5 paragraphs from his Pitchfork application portfolio

  • Jul 23, 2021

    sorta both but it really depends what kind of music. im not digging deep into some drake i just like the vibes.

  • Jul 23, 2021
    MyBallsAndMyWord

    inb4 Americana types 5 paragraphs from his Pitchfork application portfolio

    based levitator math tutor Americana: 58008

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    One pro to not learning how to produce is the magic that is kept with the elements of a song. Of course you get older and inherently understand more about the intricacies, as with anything else, but I love being in amazement at music. I’m h****

  • Jul 23, 2021
    Strung Out

    One pro to not learning how to produce is the magic that is kept with the elements of a song. Of course you get older and inherently understand more about the intricacies, as with anything else, but I love being in amazement at music. I’m h****

    yeoo I have made grave errors I need to go back

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    this thread really just about who produces and who doesn’t

    once u start learning how to make music it becomes a lot harder not to look at it from a “what were they doing to make this” mindset

  • Jul 23, 2021

    feel that s*** in my veins b

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    U need to interpret some b****es

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    big sauce

    this thread really just about who produces and who doesn’t

    once u start learning how to make music it becomes a lot harder not to look at it from a “what were they doing to make this” mindset

    that’s one aspect of it but there’s a whole blog post writer side to it @DontAtMe touched on

    Stuff like taking influences & subverting them in certain ways to convey whatever personal or political statements etc etc

    Not just like yeoo he put the gross beat on the sylenth & the key change on bar 74

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    guwop

    U need to interpret some b****es

    What Would The Hoes Do?

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    A Mad Ass Nigga

    We just vibing to the music b

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    dr3am_weaver_479

    that’s one aspect of it but there’s a whole blog post writer side to it @DontAtMe touched on

    Stuff like taking influences & subverting them in certain ways to convey whatever personal or political statements etc etc

    Not just like yeoo he put the gross beat on the sylenth & the key change on bar 74

    Exactly that’s what people did to Keef and Thug and do to people like Carti. Altho the Keef s*** was more weird because it felt like they were purposely being ironic in a lowkey convolutedly racist way

    I wish I had examples to point to but there’s this tendency on the Internet to over-intellectualize “street” artists in a like weird attempt to “save” them from from the typical rockist tropes of it just being “ignorant” music which takes things too far in the opposite direction to the point where it feels disingenuous and an attempt to project ones own values onto art that the artist never thought about

    Like I think there’s a lot to be said about how someone like Keef early music is way more conscious than it actually comes off to your average mainstream listener, but internet nerds take it to this level where it just seems like they’re being tongue and cheek and weird

    I realize by writing this I’m participating somewhat in the same phenomenon but hopefully you get what I’m getting at here

  • Jul 23, 2021
    MyBallsAndMyWord

    Exactly that’s what people did to Keef and Thug and do to people like Carti. Altho the Keef s*** was more weird because it felt like they were purposely being ironic in a lowkey convolutedly racist way

    I wish I had examples to point to but there’s this tendency on the Internet to over-intellectualize “street” artists in a like weird attempt to “save” them from from the typical rockist tropes of it just being “ignorant” music which takes things too far in the opposite direction to the point where it feels disingenuous and an attempt to project ones own values onto art that the artist never thought about

    Like I think there’s a lot to be said about how someone like Keef early music is way more conscious than it actually comes off to your average mainstream listener, but internet nerds take it to this level where it just seems like they’re being tongue and cheek and weird

    I realize by writing this I’m participating somewhat in the same phenomenon but hopefully you get what I’m getting at here

    yeah i’m tired of that s***

  • Jul 23, 2021
    MyBallsAndMyWord

    Exactly that’s what people did to Keef and Thug and do to people like Carti. Altho the Keef s*** was more weird because it felt like they were purposely being ironic in a lowkey convolutedly racist way

    I wish I had examples to point to but there’s this tendency on the Internet to over-intellectualize “street” artists in a like weird attempt to “save” them from from the typical rockist tropes of it just being “ignorant” music which takes things too far in the opposite direction to the point where it feels disingenuous and an attempt to project ones own values onto art that the artist never thought about

    Like I think there’s a lot to be said about how someone like Keef early music is way more conscious than it actually comes off to your average mainstream listener, but internet nerds take it to this level where it just seems like they’re being tongue and cheek and weird

    I realize by writing this I’m participating somewhat in the same phenomenon but hopefully you get what I’m getting at here

    Lmaoo completely & that meta realisation is sum I realised I was doing w this thread also

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    MyBallsAndMyWord

    Exactly that’s what people did to Keef and Thug and do to people like Carti. Altho the Keef s*** was more weird because it felt like they were purposely being ironic in a lowkey convolutedly racist way

    I wish I had examples to point to but there’s this tendency on the Internet to over-intellectualize “street” artists in a like weird attempt to “save” them from from the typical rockist tropes of it just being “ignorant” music which takes things too far in the opposite direction to the point where it feels disingenuous and an attempt to project ones own values onto art that the artist never thought about

    Like I think there’s a lot to be said about how someone like Keef early music is way more conscious than it actually comes off to your average mainstream listener, but internet nerds take it to this level where it just seems like they’re being tongue and cheek and weird

    I realize by writing this I’m participating somewhat in the same phenomenon but hopefully you get what I’m getting at here

    They doing this with rx nephew and that american terrorist song now

  • Jul 23, 2021
    big sauce

    this thread really just about who produces and who doesn’t

    once u start learning how to make music it becomes a lot harder not to look at it from a “what were they doing to make this” mindset

    Honestly

  • Jul 23, 2021

    Listen to this if you feel anything

  • guwop

    They doing this with rx nephew and that american terrorist song now

    Personally I haven’t seen much of that yet in regards to Rx. I think most of their fans (including myself) just take it for what it is: highly clever yet highly funny music that’s also very self aware. I think most of the people who I would blame for what I described above generally just completely dismiss Pap and Nephew because it’s not really cool to like them yet outside of certain circles

    The problem comes in when people assume that artists like Pap and Neph aren’t self aware, and need some completely unasked for grand intervention by a white reviewer that goes on a missionary trip to make their art “respectable” and tell everyone why it’s actually good, when it’s actually been good the whole time

    Now when p4k and them start reviewing Crack Therapy tapes and s*** yeah it’s a wrap

  • Jul 24, 2021

    About 2 years into music production and I was a goner.

    I notice everything but I don’t consider myself the “music decipherer” or whatever……

    At the end of the day I usually just like something cuz it just clicks with me. Feel like most of the time what I do and don’t like don’t even make sense sometimes lol