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  • Jul 23, 2020

    I just watched a tiktok of a guy saying he believes America has 4-5 castes

    1. The Investor Class
    2. Salaried Workers
    3. Part Time Workers
    4. Undocumented Workers

    I don’t know if I necessarily agree with the “castes” he believes in but it’s an interesting thought. Keep in mind that the US has a lower economic mobility rating than India right now.

  • Definitely not in 2020

  • Sponge 🧽
    Jul 23, 2020
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    idek if that terminology really applies

    I get why people go for that cause it sounds cool

    also i ain't vibin wit starting the sentence about politics with "I just watch a tiktok of a guy saying ___" lmao

  • Jul 23, 2020

    Replace caste with class

  • Jul 23, 2020

    this is an insult to people who are actually victims living in a caste system with no (I mean literally 0%) chance of upwards mobility or emancipation from their situation

  • Jul 23, 2020
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    This is ridiculous LMAO. Just read Marx don't come up with some other weird bullshit terminology

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  • Jul 24, 2020
    space0cadet

    This is ridiculous LMAO. Just read Marx don't come up with some other weird bullshit terminology

  • Jul 24, 2020
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    there's a difference between caste & class, there is a sharp division along class lines economically; however "castes" are separate from economic class (and only complemented by such) and are purely social

  • Aug 24, 2020
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    The U.S. does have a caste system and it's based on race/ethnicity.

  • Sponge 🧽
    Aug 24, 2020
    krishna bound

    there's a difference between caste & class, there is a sharp division along class lines economically; however "castes" are separate from economic class (and only complemented by such) and are purely social

    this

  • Sponge 🧽
    Aug 24, 2020
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    Mulder

    The U.S. does have a caste system and it's based on race/ethnicity.

    damn u bumped like hell

    I already been in this old ass thread thought s*** was new

  • Aug 24, 2020
    Sponge

    damn u bumped like hell

    I already been in this old ass thread thought s*** was new

    I was scrolling for interesting threads and this is something never discussed basically lmao

  • Sponge 🧽
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    US i'd say is divided by economic standing and then by race/sex/gender/disability or other categories are discriminated against further but (socioeconomically i could have just said)

    I wouldn't call it a caste system because that's like religion and what family is marrying who and all that so its kinda not as relevant a term

    Class system? yeah. I'd say we have a particularly peculiar class system which people don't address

  • Aug 24, 2020
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    Sponge

    US i'd say is divided by economic standing and then by race/sex/gender/disability or other categories are discriminated against further but (socioeconomically i could have just said)

    I wouldn't call it a caste system because that's like religion and what family is marrying who and all that so its kinda not as relevant a term

    Class system? yeah. I'd say we have a particularly peculiar class system which people don't address

    theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/28/untouchables-caste-system-us-race-martin-luther-king-india?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB

  • plants 🌻
    Aug 24, 2020

    Words mean things. Class ≠ Caste

  • Aug 24, 2020

    No such thing as a caste system here

    Britain does have a similar caste to India tho

  • Sponge 🧽
    Aug 24, 2020
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    Mastiff

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/28/untouchables-caste-system-us-race-martin-luther-king-india?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB

    I remember he made that comparison but it’s based on different things

    Good a***ogy but as far as specific terminology caste system doesn’t apply as much

    That being said Dr. King was heavy on advocating for better economic equality + opportunities and that’s around the time he got murdered

    Anytime those leaders begin to f*** somebody’s money up it seems like they go

  • Aug 24, 2020
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    Sponge

    I remember he made that comparison but it’s based on different things

    Good a***ogy but as far as specific terminology caste system doesn’t apply as much

    That being said Dr. King was heavy on advocating for better economic equality + opportunities and that’s around the time he got murdered

    Anytime those leaders begin to f*** somebody’s money up it seems like they go

    India is not the only example of a caste system.

    The U.S. Is divided by ethnicity over class too. Lol I didn't even realize this was a controversial statement.

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    Like yes there a class system... There's a class system plenty of places is there not?

    There's also another system here and has been for centuries. If specifically calling it a caste system is bothering people then it is a caste-like system at worst.

    There are ethnicities and panethnicities that could also be described as a buffer caste here...

    And to no shock at all, a book was just released discussing this lol: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste:_The_Origins_of_Our_Discontents

  • Aug 25, 2020
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    Mulder

    Like yes there a class system... There's a class system plenty of places is there not?

    There's also another system here and has been for centuries. If specifically calling it a caste system is bothering people then it is a caste-like system at worst.

    There are ethnicities and panethnicities that could also be described as a buffer caste here...

    And to no shock at all, a book was just released discussing this lol: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste:_The_Origins_of_Our_Discontents

    would you recommend the book?

  • Aug 25, 2020
    Synopsis

    would you recommend the book?

    I just added it to my Kindle. I'll let you know when I finish it.

  • Sponge 🧽
    Aug 25, 2020
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    Mulder

    India is not the only example of a caste system.

    The U.S. Is divided by ethnicity over class too. Lol I didn't even realize this was a controversial statement.

    doesn't really bother me I was just hesitant to label it a caste system but parallels can def be drawn

  • Aug 25, 2020
    Sponge

    doesn't really bother me I was just hesitant to label it a caste system but parallels can def be drawn

    Not attacking you or anything, I just didn't realize people would say the OP is talking nonsense or something.

    I think perhaps caste-like MIGHT be more appropriate for current United States, because there's several ways the U.S. does resemble a caste system. I think it was absolutely completely accurate back in the day, and as that link posted it seems Indians affected by the system viewed Black Americans as such as well.