Who do you take for

Fiscal/economic policy -
International relations -
Social policy -
Congressional influence/deal negotiation -

Hold on now lmao

Think Obama flopped big time on economic policy and let the wealth gap continue to spiral and policy in Middle East was a disaster/garbage

Point below is why I bring it up

Fiscal - Obama bc Obamacare
International relations - both pretty bad, but Biden has handled the Ukraine situation masterfully so I'll give it to Brandon
Social policy - Pretty much the same
Congressional influence- Biden by a mile

Overall I still give it to Obama because of intangibles (he wasn't an embarrassment every time he spoke), and the fact the he left the country so much better than he found it. That could change though, Biden has been on a tear lately.

Can’t compare this to an entire 8 years but so far so good
A lot of government spending in the right places raising taxes on big businesses kinda sorting out the oil crisis and a good recovery so far post covid
Spending on infrastructure and forgiving debt ending the Afghan war and more
I mean

Did he really leave it better off though, the market exploded with tech stocks and consumer spending but really did people get better off?

The banks just got bailed out and went on mostly business as usually albeit they have to play and gamble with different securities now

He did nothing to put in the national spotlight or on liberal platforms that the wealth gap was a major threat to social instability (that led to trump having that disenfranchised base who really were mostly a bunch poor whites fuxked by globalization that Clinton/Obama loved)

His approach to the Middle East/NA was really almost as bad as Bush for 100s of reasons

Biden is too experienced to be bad at this job

both mid

Yea, he got the economy going again. Full employment and real wage growth again which some thought impossible.

Obamacare and medicaid expansion was so clutch. That s*** was a life saver for so many, including myself.

Obama had much less hawkish policy towards Russia and that conflict is kinda f***ing the whole world rn so

Tbf America was still in Iraq and Afghanistan
Only so much bandwidth

Crazy how GOP governors are focusing on culture war s*** meanwhile they refuse to do Medicaid expansion. Really makes you wonder about the people voting for them.

Too early, but both aren't better.

I mean it's not like they're sending troops now, Obama didn't send any weapons to Ukraine at all, he could have done that

Obama even proposed to collaborate with Russia in Syria btw

I feel like a lot of people could have done that, the financial crisis in nature wasn’t gonna be a persistent weight on consumers and was just a big reset as people realized the risks of consumer high interest debt much more and overzealous spending. Wall Street restarted and consumers rebuilt their lives from the ground up — interest rates were cut to 0 to ease stress.

The recovery had to do more with people adapting and getting smarter about their exposure to toxic assets/debt agreements.

I think the stimulus bill had a huge part of it. So basically, any Democratic President could have done it. But there's something to be said for competent leadership. As for the wealth gap, I definitely think Obamacare stopped it from growing more than it did in that time.

For me Biden is a return to normality Bush with the wars on terror Obama carrying on the wars while also dealing with economic crisis/a stubborn congress and the whole Trump experiment were off course
Covid tied up that era nicely and now we’re back to major power competition
If the right keeps going the way they are and pull off a major win no telling what’ll happen
Democrats a safe bet rn if Biden is the party

That s*** downright evil. Funny how Kentucky and West Virginia adopted it.. where the poor white folks live. Then just look at the demographics of the states that didn't adopt it

How is this a fair comparison?

In the end who cares

Its the big corporations that run the US under any president

Big corporations just forgave student debt and banned abortions
Government matters