GustavMahler

4mo

King Coon @insertcoolnamehere starting s*** and won’t relax

celinee

4mo

king coon

i saw ur thread tho and i think hiphop is an aspect of black culture, but not the entirety.

i also think the art can be disconnected from the industry money machine, but that might only happen when niggas stop caring about numbers and actually start caring abt quality.

thegreatdivine

4mo

What I don't like is people pushing this idea that rap has only ever been super conscious and anyone not making that type of rap isn't a real rapper or isn't making real rap music. Hip-hop started out as a youth movement and other aspects of it like DJing, breakdancing, graffiti were naturally fun and rebellious and anti-establishment due to their counter-culture nature.

But FUN has always been embedded in hip-hop and everything it connotes. This idea that anyone making fun music or rapping about lighter topics isn't "for the culture" is stupid. There's always been conscious rap music but party/fun rap has always been there as well.

Also, everyone should have a right to do what they wanna do without being felt like what they're doing is inferior. Whoever prefers more fun rap songs to conscious rap songs should do that without s***ting on conscious rap and vice-versa. Both sides have always co-existed and rap has always been as it's best when there's enough space at the top for both to get their shine.

Ron Mexico

4mo

That's not right, some progress is progress

That all or nothing s*** is what's really not gonna work

Niggas are a nation, and if we're looking at most other "prosperous" nation they either have resources, relationships, dominion over other smaller nations and maybe their own to exploit for enrichment. We have land, but we don't really have power to legislate for our own. One of our biggest "exports" is intellectual property, which was one of @GustavMahler points and we don't own a majority share of tha

If you continue to let a nation basically married itself into another more larger and will established nation, then that nation will cease to prominently exist. That's not to say divesting is happening at a rapid rate, that's just what I surmise from hearing Umar talk about the interracial stuff

Please be mindful I'm just a nigga with a joint this morning

insertcoolnamehere

4mo

Most of those nations got those resources from us in the 1st place and I think that is the biggest reason why we’re heavily disadvantaged in the 1st place

Highly recommend How Europe Underdeveloped Africa by Walter Rodney ( really illustrates how in order for europe/the west to be in a position it is today they had to use africa resources)

If we boycotted the black dollar today, to solely invest in our own we would still have to take the L for decades on decades on decades just to get to a fraction of what other nations got. (I dont think jon bap getting with anna wise is the reason niggas still gotta deal with banks rejecting them for business loans for #reasons)

Snowboy

4mo

yall claim to like music thats both "deep" and "fun" and yet the polo perks/ayoolii album thread only got like 4 pages

Bow And Arrow

4mo

Amazing album

Snowboy

4mo

yall claim to like music thats both "deep" and "fun" and yet the polo perks/ayoolii album thread only got like 4 pages

celinee

4mo

dang this is straight nostalgia, my dad loves this book, told me a lot abt it as a kid.

Snowboy

4mo

for all the grandstanding, ktt is mostly allergic to good music and will either spend time talking about overrated "classics" they can't let go of or whatever is hot rn that is also acceptable to the podcaster morons they listen to

John Mauve

4mo

More than anything I just want a really fresh sound