Does anyone else feel that Kendrick's marketing will ultimately ruin his legacy?

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  • GALAXYZ

    He makes great enough music with a good enough message to actually wear it,. I get it but it can't be helped imo

    I will say this peak of his that he's hitting is way overdue but better late than never

  • Mar 21
    The Krab Season

    That's their new narrative

    Drake was never going to battle if push ups didn’t leak

    got it

  • Mar 21

    im yet to see a single obnoxious kendrick 'stan' who isnt a reddit user or random vertical video character

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    S80 - backpack hip hop nerds discover Kendrick, deal signed
    GKMC - the XXL novelty factor, tour with Drake kick-starts mainstream career, the "West Coast Savior" narrative begins, peak era
    TPAB - critic bait allegations surface, jazz and Pac poems for no reason, tryhard era
    DAMN - Top intervenes, creative direction sacrificed for sales and radio play, meme manufacturing, sneak dissing for promo, love feat Zacari
    UU - the Damn energy catches up, realizes he has gone astray, too insecure to engage in rollout and drop a real album, creative block era
    Big Steppers - trying to regain creative control and vulnerability, long hiatus results in lackluster performance, wearing crown of Christ for promo, Travis got you wiped down era
    GNX - openly dissing Drake for promo, regains the underdog narrative, watered down and uninspired but commercially successful, Superbowl boost

  • Mar 21
    KingGuwop
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    S80 - backpack hip hop nerds discover Kendrick, deal signed
    GKMC - the XXL novelty factor, tour with Drake kick-starts mainstream career, the "West Coast Savior" narrative begins, peak era
    TPAB - critic bait allegations surface, jazz and Pac poems for no reason, tryhard era
    DAMN - Top intervenes, creative direction sacrificed for sales and radio play, meme manufacturing, sneak dissing for promo, love feat Zacari
    UU - the Damn energy catches up, realizes he has gone astray, too insecure to engage in rollout and drop a real album, creative block era
    Big Steppers - trying to regain creative control and vulnerability, long hiatus results in lackluster performance, wearing crown of Christ for promo, Travis got you wiped down era
    GNX - openly dissing Drake for promo, regains the underdog narrative, watered down and uninspired but commercially successful, Superbowl boost

    tour with Drake is so overrated

    he toured with #1 in the game at the time Kanye, Eminem, and Wiz/Mac in the same year

  • Mar 21
    Drogon

    TPAB outro where he is glazing the ghost of Pac because he went through some pokemon inspired evolution.

    "when the s*** hits the fan is it still a fan" nah it's an anorexic crocodile with multiple NDAs to it's name going through a mid-life crisis. Of course it's still a fan

    It's like that meme about the godfather movies. It insists upon itself.

    you realize that 'insists upon itself' in itself is a joke about vague grandstanding arguments that take forever to prove and ultimately just might be one's peculiar understanding of the product in question?

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    KingGuwop

    S80 - backpack hip hop nerds discover Kendrick, deal signed
    GKMC - the XXL novelty factor, tour with Drake kick-starts mainstream career, the "West Coast Savior" narrative begins, peak era
    TPAB - critic bait allegations surface, jazz and Pac poems for no reason, tryhard era
    DAMN - Top intervenes, creative direction sacrificed for sales and radio play, meme manufacturing, sneak dissing for promo, love feat Zacari
    UU - the Damn energy catches up, realizes he has gone astray, too insecure to engage in rollout and drop a real album, creative block era
    Big Steppers - trying to regain creative control and vulnerability, long hiatus results in lackluster performance, wearing crown of Christ for promo, Travis got you wiped down era
    GNX - openly dissing Drake for promo, regains the underdog narrative, watered down and uninspired but commercially successful, Superbowl boost

    This post is so goddamn condescending Jesus Christ lmaoooooo

    Also UU came before DAMN

    goofy ahhh post all around

  • S80 Kendrick (my fav Kendrick) would be embarrassed about the clout chasing sellout he has become. Shame.

  • KingGuwop

    S80 - backpack hip hop nerds discover Kendrick, deal signed
    GKMC - the XXL novelty factor, tour with Drake kick-starts mainstream career, the "West Coast Savior" narrative begins, peak era
    TPAB - critic bait allegations surface, jazz and Pac poems for no reason, tryhard era
    DAMN - Top intervenes, creative direction sacrificed for sales and radio play, meme manufacturing, sneak dissing for promo, love feat Zacari
    UU - the Damn energy catches up, realizes he has gone astray, too insecure to engage in rollout and drop a real album, creative block era
    Big Steppers - trying to regain creative control and vulnerability, long hiatus results in lackluster performance, wearing crown of Christ for promo, Travis got you wiped down era
    GNX - openly dissing Drake for promo, regains the underdog narrative, watered down and uninspired but commercially successful, Superbowl boost

    Amazing post. You summed it up perfectly.

    You are a true hip-hop historian, my good sir! tips fedora

  • pneu
    Mar 21
    KingGuwop

    S80 - backpack hip hop nerds discover Kendrick, deal signed
    GKMC - the XXL novelty factor, tour with Drake kick-starts mainstream career, the "West Coast Savior" narrative begins, peak era
    TPAB - critic bait allegations surface, jazz and Pac poems for no reason, tryhard era
    DAMN - Top intervenes, creative direction sacrificed for sales and radio play, meme manufacturing, sneak dissing for promo, love feat Zacari
    UU - the Damn energy catches up, realizes he has gone astray, too insecure to engage in rollout and drop a real album, creative block era
    Big Steppers - trying to regain creative control and vulnerability, long hiatus results in lackluster performance, wearing crown of Christ for promo, Travis got you wiped down era
    GNX - openly dissing Drake for promo, regains the underdog narrative, watered down and uninspired but commercially successful, Superbowl boost

    This straight bullshit btw

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    Valentine

    a song doesn’t just leak unless you were shopping it around

    we talking about one of the most secure artists mid beef, stop it

    im telling you a fact idc about your conjecture

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    KingGuwop

    S80 - backpack hip hop nerds discover Kendrick, deal signed
    GKMC - the XXL novelty factor, tour with Drake kick-starts mainstream career, the "West Coast Savior" narrative begins, peak era
    TPAB - critic bait allegations surface, jazz and Pac poems for no reason, tryhard era
    DAMN - Top intervenes, creative direction sacrificed for sales and radio play, meme manufacturing, sneak dissing for promo, love feat Zacari
    UU - the Damn energy catches up, realizes he has gone astray, too insecure to engage in rollout and drop a real album, creative block era
    Big Steppers - trying to regain creative control and vulnerability, long hiatus results in lackluster performance, wearing crown of Christ for promo, Travis got you wiped down era
    GNX - openly dissing Drake for promo, regains the underdog narrative, watered down and uninspired but commercially successful, Superbowl boost

    Who are your top 3 rappers

    and what are your top 3 projects?

    I wanna see something

  • he will probably go back to dropping an album like once every 5 years, and gracefully just take more of a backseat roll in Hip-Hop and let a new generation take over in a few years.

    I can almost imagine there being some new up and coming massive westcoast rapper immerging in a few years. And we will get a recreation of when Snoop crowned Kendrick the new King of the Westcoast.

    I imagine Kendrick will eventually do the same to a new artist eventually, and he will just be seen as legend to be respected. He'll retire his status as "The Current GOAT" before he is considered washed or old

  • Mar 21
    WRF

    people forget push ups leaked lol. he wasnt going to put anything out

    LOOOOOL oh man new cope every day

  • Some of the most dense arguments itt. Op on some defensive s*** ironically enough, thread is a radioactive mess. 10/10, I love it

  • didn't he literally disclaim all the saviour stuff on his second to last album? is gnx particularly heavy on dense raps and metaphors? i feel like if the answer to these questions is yes, no then most of what the Op said is bunk

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    WESLEY PRESELY

    How many times does he have to tell people he’s not a savior and isn’t trying to be

    I disagree with this and it's a problem I have with MM&TBS. It's not a mantle that was just placed on him by others because he dropped an amazing album, he has done things to embrace being seen as the saviour of hip-hop. The Heart Part 3 is talking about "Will you let hip-hop die on the day my album drops?". Hiiipower music video starts off by saying 2Pac visited him in a dream. "I made TPAB for you, to save mankind for you". The crown of thorns in MM&TBS marketing and live performances. Watch the Party Die

    Hate the narrative that he doesn't want to be seen as this figure when he's actively done things to cause people to view him as this figure. And then MM&TBS comes across as him pointing the finger like "I never wanted this, y'all put this on me"

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    BlueChew Sean

    I disagree with this and it's a problem I have with MM&TBS. It's not a mantle that was just placed on him by others because he dropped an amazing album, he has done things to embrace being seen as the saviour of hip-hop. The Heart Part 3 is talking about "Will you let hip-hop die on the day my album drops?". Hiiipower music video starts off by saying 2Pac visited him in a dream. "I made TPAB for you, to save mankind for you". The crown of thorns in MM&TBS marketing and live performances. Watch the Party Die

    Hate the narrative that he doesn't want to be seen as this figure when he's actively done things to cause people to view him as this figure. And then MM&TBS comes across as him pointing the finger like "I never wanted this, y'all put this on me"

    I agree with everything you’ve said, except the last part, the sentiment of MM&TBS is not that he's pointing the finger, and saying all of you put this on me, it’s that he recognises how he’s come across in his music, it’s an apology, “I’m sorry I couldn’t save the world my friend, I was too busy building mine again” he chooses himself now, despite trying to live up to this saviour narrative that he himself helped create.

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    Locvlgoon_

    I agree with everything you’ve said, except the last part, the sentiment of MM&TBS is not that he's pointing the finger, and saying all of you put this on me, it’s that he recognises how he’s come across in his music, it’s an apology, “I’m sorry I couldn’t save the world my friend, I was too busy building mine again” he chooses himself now, despite trying to live up to this saviour narrative that he himself helped create.

    it’s that he recognises how he’s come across in his music, it’s an apology, “I’m sorry I couldn’t save the the world my friend, I was too busy building mine again”

    Ehh I don't really agree to this. I dont think that was meant to be taken as a sincere apology but more as a tongue in cheek response to Noname and people who agree with her pov. Throughout MMBS, he doesn't really take accountability for playing into the savior role aside from a few lines on Crown.

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    Its just entertainment and Dot is a damn good entertainer

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    Can anybody give me a valid reason that he isnt using his giant star power to make political statements?

    Bc i just think its because he has ‘bad’ politics and knows it.

    He probably has some f***ed up views about palestine bc of his deep religiousity and black hebrew s***

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    Locvlgoon_

    I agree with everything you’ve said, except the last part, the sentiment of MM&TBS is not that he's pointing the finger, and saying all of you put this on me, it’s that he recognises how he’s come across in his music, it’s an apology, “I’m sorry I couldn’t save the world my friend, I was too busy building mine again” he chooses himself now, despite trying to live up to this saviour narrative that he himself helped create.

    He doesn't acknowledge his own actions that I highlighted enough on the album imo. Think there's like a line or two on Crown but that's it. Album is supposed to be this breakthrough but even the fact that he brings up slavery as a potential explanation for his cheating just isn't enough accountability imo

    I think 4:44 is a far better execution of a similar concept because Hov was brutally honest and vulnerable. Complete deconstruction of the powerful Hov figure we've come to know for almost 2 decades. Kendrick's attempt comes across like there's still some pride and not a complete acknowledgement of accountability.

    The song you're quoting has some lines that come across as shade towards Noname for looking towards him in the first place when he's done all those things for people to look towards him. Ask yourself why J Cole and Kendrick felt the need to respond to her tweet and not other rappers, she mentioned no names (pun intended)

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    Oblivion X

    it’s that he recognises how he’s come across in his music, it’s an apology, “I’m sorry I couldn’t save the the world my friend, I was too busy building mine again”

    Ehh I don't really agree to this. I dont think that was meant to be taken as a sincere apology but more as a tongue in cheek response to Noname and people who agree with her pov. Throughout MMBS, he doesn't really take accountability for playing into the savior role aside from a few lines on Crown.

    !!! Exactly. Didn't even see your post and we're saying the same thing

  • Mar 21
    rather late

    Can anybody give me a valid reason that he isnt using his giant star power to make political statements?

    Bc i just think its because he has ‘bad’ politics and knows it.

    He probably has some f***ed up views about palestine bc of his deep religiousity and black hebrew s***

    would not be surprised to see that be the case. And if so, I'm glad he's keeping his mouth shut

  • BlueChew Sean

    I disagree with this and it's a problem I have with MM&TBS. It's not a mantle that was just placed on him by others because he dropped an amazing album, he has done things to embrace being seen as the saviour of hip-hop. The Heart Part 3 is talking about "Will you let hip-hop die on the day my album drops?". Hiiipower music video starts off by saying 2Pac visited him in a dream. "I made TPAB for you, to save mankind for you". The crown of thorns in MM&TBS marketing and live performances. Watch the Party Die

    Hate the narrative that he doesn't want to be seen as this figure when he's actively done things to cause people to view him as this figure. And then MM&TBS comes across as him pointing the finger like "I never wanted this, y'all put this on me"

    Nailed it
    I think around Mr Morale he realized his politics dont match the politics people projected on him as a result of TPAB

    I think when you boil it down his politics are very similar to jay z/ jay elec

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