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  • Apr 4

    I mean like when its multiple major artists - not locals or newcomers that billed behind the name

    For instance, one of the the things (among others) that led to Jay and R Kelly beefing on their 2nd collab album was on tour fighting over whos name is first on the headline of the tour lol and them both being the current #1 in their respective genres. Its just petty and dumb to me. Does that even really matter to people, especially these days?

    Or what about the upcoming Drake and Cole tour? Does it, or will it, affect you as a possible paying fan that may be more of a fan of one or the other if its billed as Drake x J Cole or J Cole x Drake? Does that matter to you, and if so, why?

    Another example is festivals that some artists can get mad about. Festivals do more like tiers of the artists, but artists sometime still get mad of the "position" of their name even within the tier. Imo, if youre in the tier you think you belong in then why does it matter beyond that? To people of thread again, does that affect your decisions and/or idea of the artist? Not the tier (which I can understand this one on the artist feelings) but on the positions WITHIN THE tier?

  • Apr 4
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    I personally really dont care as a fan.

  • Don’t matter

  • Water Giver

    I personally really dont care as a fan.

    it matter to the artist for money making purposes, the headliners/higher tiers gonna have more pull in future negotiations, but as a fan nahhh

  • Billing in film is heavily negotiated as well as A side - B side dynamics in boxing. It confers status. That's Drake's tour. Cole just slotted in for 21 at some point. It reflects income. Those big names on the fliers are getting paid more money and are expected to bring in more customers.

  • 'Various artists' albums are always funny like this because they will have convoluted credits like Artist A & Artist B feat. Artist C, Artist D x Artist E and you just know INTENSE label negotiations were required to reach that point. Suicide Squad soundtrack is a great example

  • most of the time they’ll just throw in any basic white band like artic monkeys or foo fighters just to sell tickets but the smaller and rap acts are what get me to buy tickets

  • I mean it depends like the drake x cole tour is really just a drake tour with cole performing like 12 ish songs and drake performing majority of it

  • Apr 4
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    Outside of tours with mutually huge acts it definitely matters enough to take into consideration - brings up a whole lot of other factors

    I went to a Zulu show recently, they had 7 other bands on the lineup. Started at 2pm, I’m thinking “okay well these are mostly hardcore acts, a lot of them don’t have a full album out, I bet this whole thing wraps up before the sun goes down”. Wrong! The organizer was cool, she gave everybody an hour at least to perform and I end up having to leave six and a half hours later before the headliner (and the act before the headliner) got on. Whoops!

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    babylon sherm

    Outside of tours with mutually huge acts it definitely matters enough to take into consideration - brings up a whole lot of other factors

    I went to a Zulu show recently, they had 7 other bands on the lineup. Started at 2pm, I’m thinking “okay well these are mostly hardcore acts, a lot of them don’t have a full album out, I bet this whole thing wraps up before the sun goes down”. Wrong! The organizer was cool, she gave everybody an hour at least to perform and I end up having to leave six and a half hours later before the headliner (and the act before the headliner) got on. Whoops!

    Undercard hardcore acts having an hour of material

  • Rock Mudson

    Undercard hardcore acts having an hour of material

    It left a good amount of time for some light speechifying 🤝