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  • Nov 9, 2022
    nonamestreets14

    Don’t think that remix is going to affect rich flex going number one. Unless they play some tricks behind the scenes

    billboard going to receive a this is TAYLOR text.

  • Nov 9, 2022

    rich flex video at the start of next tracking week would be smart

  • Nov 9, 2022
    nonamestreets14

    Don’t think that remix is going to affect rich flex going number one. Unless they play some tricks behind the scenes

    Aint no unless. thats why it has to be released, so the tricks can be done.

  • Nov 9, 2022
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    @thegreatdivine you think she closing the gap to Rich Flex number 1 with this remix in 1 day possibly?

    Would be wild because the points gap looked kinda substantial but don’t know how crazy her fans are 🤣

  • Nov 9, 2022
    DJMCC93

    I already see the bullshit coming… Charts gonna be delayed on Monday while Taylor’s team submits fake ass numbers

    This is so nasty and no publication is gonna call it out

    Took em all day last week. It was like 9pm

  • Nov 9, 2022
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    CLB Biz

    defo 700k+ as clb already did 600k+.

    but drizzy isn't going to do all that. it's just drop the music and let it do all the talking. physicals and pre-orders aside, he'll never resort to these bs gimmicks such a bad look fr.

    True but I didn’t want to assume CLB numbers are the norm. It had years of hype and almost beat out Scorpion in terms of streams

  • SinceKumbaya

    @thegreatdivine you think she closing the gap to Rich Flex number 1 with this remix in 1 day possibly?

    Would be wild because the points gap looked kinda substantial but don’t know how crazy her fans are 🤣

    If it was 99% of other artists I’d say no chance, but swift fans are borderline insane when it comes to supporting Taylor. Fans spending $500 on all the different vinyl and cd versions. No doubt a good amount are buying that remix and never hitting play again after the first listen

  • Nov 9, 2022
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    Wiggler

    If Her Loss can do 400K, that means a proper Drake album with physicals and pre-orders can do 600-700K no?

    Drake’s normal numbers for a solo album are 600k+ so I’d imagine he’d be doing at least 800k if he pulled out all the stops. Definitely more tho

  • Nov 9, 2022
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    Yazzy

    Billboard needs new rules cuz this is getting crazy

    They won't change them until black people or other minority see the same benefit. Right now only artists like Taylor, Adele, Ed Sheeran, Justin Bieber can take advantage of this s***. It's even more obvious when BTS was doing s*** like this last year for Butter and billboard was swift to change the rules immediately after

    koreaboo.com/news/bts-armys-behind-billboard-changes-rules

    kbizoom.com/bts-was-mocked-after-billboard-changed-the-rule-fans-replied-firmly-take-care-of-your-idol-first-dont-care-too-much-about-bts

    I wanted to put a thread together about this but Billboard has historically worked in favor of white artists and changes rules when it's detrimental to other races whenever they feel like it and it's sickening. You could ask "why do you even care?" but a system built to only put white artists on the top infuriates me as an aspiring artist and someone who like to keep track of statistics. Numbers aren't supposed to be biased but they can and are being twisted by the parties who are supposed to be unbiased

  • Nov 9, 2022
    Wiggler

    True but I didn’t want to assume CLB numbers are the norm. It had years of hype and almost beat out Scorpion in terms of streams

    that is the norm for a drake rap album. what we got since scorpion is dldt ( leaks, loosies and demos) which was announced day of and hnvm (surprise dance album). clb did the numbers it was supposed to imo.

    and streaming has grown a lot since scorpion.

  • Nov 9, 2022
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    The Darkest Angel

    They won't change them until black people or other minority see the same benefit. Right now only artists like Taylor, Adele, Ed Sheeran, Justin Bieber can take advantage of this s***. It's even more obvious when BTS was doing s*** like this last year for Butter and billboard was swift to change the rules immediately after

    https://www.koreaboo.com/news/bts-armys-behind-billboard-changes-rules/

    https://kbizoom.com/bts-was-mocked-after-billboard-changed-the-rule-fans-replied-firmly-take-care-of-your-idol-first-dont-care-too-much-about-bts/

    I wanted to put a thread together about this but Billboard has historically worked in favor of white artists and changes rules when it's detrimental to other races whenever they feel like it and it's sickening. You could ask "why do you even care?" but a system built to only put white artists on the top infuriates me as an aspiring artist and someone who like to keep track of statistics. Numbers aren't supposed to be biased but they can and are being twisted by the parties who are supposed to be unbiased

    their white fanbases are more likely to have the disposable income to splash on all these gimmicks compared to minorities.

  • Nov 9, 2022
    The Darkest Angel

    They won't change them until black people or other minority see the same benefit. Right now only artists like Taylor, Adele, Ed Sheeran, Justin Bieber can take advantage of this s***. It's even more obvious when BTS was doing s*** like this last year for Butter and billboard was swift to change the rules immediately after

    https://www.koreaboo.com/news/bts-armys-behind-billboard-changes-rules/

    https://kbizoom.com/bts-was-mocked-after-billboard-changed-the-rule-fans-replied-firmly-take-care-of-your-idol-first-dont-care-too-much-about-bts/

    I wanted to put a thread together about this but Billboard has historically worked in favor of white artists and changes rules when it's detrimental to other races whenever they feel like it and it's sickening. You could ask "why do you even care?" but a system built to only put white artists on the top infuriates me as an aspiring artist and someone who like to keep track of statistics. Numbers aren't supposed to be biased but they can and are being twisted by the parties who are supposed to be unbiased

    this lowkey deserves its own thread

  • Nov 9, 2022
    The Darkest Angel

    They won't change them until black people or other minority see the same benefit. Right now only artists like Taylor, Adele, Ed Sheeran, Justin Bieber can take advantage of this s***. It's even more obvious when BTS was doing s*** like this last year for Butter and billboard was swift to change the rules immediately after

    https://www.koreaboo.com/news/bts-armys-behind-billboard-changes-rules/

    https://kbizoom.com/bts-was-mocked-after-billboard-changed-the-rule-fans-replied-firmly-take-care-of-your-idol-first-dont-care-too-much-about-bts/

    I wanted to put a thread together about this but Billboard has historically worked in favor of white artists and changes rules when it's detrimental to other races whenever they feel like it and it's sickening. You could ask "why do you even care?" but a system built to only put white artists on the top infuriates me as an aspiring artist and someone who like to keep track of statistics. Numbers aren't supposed to be biased but they can and are being twisted by the parties who are supposed to be unbiased

    Spitting

  • Nov 9, 2022
    The Darkest Angel

    They won't change them until black people or other minority see the same benefit. Right now only artists like Taylor, Adele, Ed Sheeran, Justin Bieber can take advantage of this s***. It's even more obvious when BTS was doing s*** like this last year for Butter and billboard was swift to change the rules immediately after

    https://www.koreaboo.com/news/bts-armys-behind-billboard-changes-rules/

    https://kbizoom.com/bts-was-mocked-after-billboard-changed-the-rule-fans-replied-firmly-take-care-of-your-idol-first-dont-care-too-much-about-bts/

    I wanted to put a thread together about this but Billboard has historically worked in favor of white artists and changes rules when it's detrimental to other races whenever they feel like it and it's sickening. You could ask "why do you even care?" but a system built to only put white artists on the top infuriates me as an aspiring artist and someone who like to keep track of statistics. Numbers aren't supposed to be biased but they can and are being twisted by the parties who are supposed to be unbiased

  • Nov 9, 2022
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    CLB Biz

    their white fanbases are more likely to have the disposable income to splash on all these gimmicks compared to minorities.

    I had mentioned that but removed it because I think that's debatable honestly thinking on it now. Drake, Kendrick, Cole, Ye have very strong numbers of black fans that do support them they're not the majority of their fans but still there. It's just that the charts are more geared towards pop gimmicks and selling out which artists like Drake and Kendrick especially won't stoop that low so it's not just fans but artists have to be willing to compromise on their integrity if they want billboard to count them in. It's a game and they're the gatekeepers. I miss the Rolling Stones chart because they were finally going to step in on the monopoly

  • Nov 9, 2022
    The Darkest Angel

    I had mentioned that but removed it because I think that's debatable honestly thinking on it now. Drake, Kendrick, Cole, Ye have very strong numbers of black fans that do support them they're not the majority of their fans but still there. It's just that the charts are more geared towards pop gimmicks and selling out which artists like Drake and Kendrick especially won't stoop that low so it's not just fans but artists have to be willing to compromise on their integrity if they want billboard to count them in. It's a game and they're the gatekeepers. I miss the Rolling Stones chart because they were finally going to step in on the monopoly

    I agree it comes down to the artist to make those gimmicks available to the fans. But pop culture has taken it way too far (with the help of twitter) to the point where it's not even about the music anymore. Just straight manipulating charts.

  • Nov 9, 2022
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    SinceKumbaya

    @thegreatdivine you think she closing the gap to Rich Flex number 1 with this remix in 1 day possibly?

    Would be wild because the points gap looked kinda substantial but don’t know how crazy her fans are 🤣

    Nope.

  • Nov 9, 2022
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    thegreatdivine

    Nope.

    Cool,

    what's your guess for the fw (album) right now?

  • Nov 9, 2022
    SinceKumbaya

    Cool,

    what's your guess for the fw (album) right now?

    410-425k.

  • Nov 10, 2022
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  • Nov 10, 2022
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    thegreatdivine
    https://twitter.com/talkofthecharts/status/1590507988783366145

    So like 8-9 songs top 10?

  • Nov 10, 2022
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    Yazzy

    So like 8-9 songs top 10?

    Its such a shame drake wasn’t the first one to do 10/10 on the top 10 and it was taylors CHEATING ass. Im sure drake will get it with his next album but sucks she “did” first

  • Nov 10, 2022
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    Larry Ishvalan Fox
    https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1590519610578817026

    Lets goooo is it still #1 on global spotify?

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