ryuH

2y

I was with you until you started talking about Drake won off the music

I love both artist definitely my top 2 of the last 15 years and it has flipped between them often so I have no reason to hate on either one and I gotta say Kendrick kicked Drake’s ass bro

This nigga dissed him with every type of diss record imaginable and they all hard lol.

First he hit him with the iconic feature verse diss with Like That (really a page out of Drake playbook with Stay Schemin and No Shopping) s*** will literally be played forever

Then he hit him with a nice well rounded diss with Euphoria that has all the elements of a great diss (great bars, great production, great performance and charisma, confrontational, high level disrespect, humor, and even commercial appeal)

Then he hit em with 6:16 in LA which was smooth and less confrontational but more lyrically dense over a classic Al Green sample, basically told Drake he has a mole and his people ain’t loyal and he needs to tread lightly

Then he drops MTG which completely assassinated this niggas character regardless of what’s true or not. We all know in politics perception is reality and it’s the same with rap beef.

Finally he completely humiliates this nigga by dropping a number 1 hit radio/club banger that completely calls him out on being a pedo, has people adopting FAN into their slang, and has people chanting OVHOE lol

Drake kept it somewhat competitive throughout with his records but Kendrick dog walked this nigga man

JMF31

2y

The point is, neither you or myself can speak objectively about this. Getting that family friends pov on all of this has been the closest thing to an unbiased opinion I’ve gotten.

If you couldn’t surmise that from my post, then idk what to tell you, unless you’re deliberately being dense.

JMF31

2y

The point is, neither you or myself can speak objectively about this. Getting that family friends pov on all of this has been the closest thing to an unbiased opinion I’ve gotten.

If you couldn’t surmise that from my post, then idk what to tell you, unless you’re deliberately being dense.

thegreatdivine

2y

So numbers-wise, across their careers, Kendrick is seeing Drake?

How are we ignoring Kendrick stepping on his own releases because they weren't hitting the mark with people?! He dropped 4 diss tracks in 4 days because none of them were getting the job done and finally stopped when one of them became a hit but according to y'all, those were flawlessly-timed moves

JMF31

2y

I hear what you’re saying and genuinely appreciate you stating your thoughts clearly and cohesively and not replying with some generic, useless reply lol.

I’m biased, i know. I know Kendrick is super talented and I respect him, he’s just never been my cup of tea. Having said that… imo:

Like That was good for shock value. It was entirely unexpected, but that wears off pretty quickly.

Euphoria was just okay to me. Not bad by any means, it just didn’t really wow me. He got a lot of good bars off and I respect his pen on this track.

6:16 was fire imo. Kendricks best of the whole beef. I enjoyed this one.

MTG didn’t land with me at all. Like I se what he was going for and it was wel executed. But as I’ve said in other posts, everything dot said to assassinate drakes character could be applied to 90% of other rappers (including future and The Weeknd who cliqued up with dot in this whole thing lmao). The disgusted thing was shocking tho, but given how the situation played itself out, i don’t really think that’s true.

Not Like Us is a banger. I’ve lived in Cali my whole life lol. It’s has all the makings of a west coast anthem. I’ll absolutely give credit where it’s due, but his pen was weak AF at points on this track. The “OV-ho” and “69 god” sound like amateur rapping to me. That s*** was cringe asl, but the a minor bar was hard af tho lol.

kg65

2y

Drake lost and he quit first lmao idk how people can even argue about it at this point.

Bro literally said "you can drop 100 tracks I'll see ya later" and people really think he's about to continue.

Bro literally said "I don't want to diss you anymore" WORD FOR WORD, and people think he's about to continue.

Bro literally said "Summer Vibes up next" and people STILL THINK HE'S ABOUT TO CONTINUE

It's over lol. Our boy lost and anyone denying it is fanboying. This is basically parallel to what happened to Meek Mill when Drake killed him to be honest lol. The fact that two of Kendrick's diss tracks are outperforming Drake's is just salt in the wound.

-Drake f***ed up with the Push Ups release. Should've been a soundcloud or youtube or even an IG drop.

-Drake f***ed up running his mouth to Ak as much as he did

-Drake f***ed up hyping up, and letting people get on Twitter (and even get on here) and hype up his so called "red button"

-Drake f***ed up when Family Matters got stepped on by meet the grahams and he didn't have another response ready, especially when meet the grahams was far more scathing and brutal than anything Drake did in Family Matters.

And then lets talk about the "red button". Family Matters being his nuke track is crazy when he really didn't say anything crazy about the other guys involved in the beef, and while he exposed Kendrick as an alleged woman beater, he didn't expand on that s*** enough. Falls flat when the opposition drops a diss track with a f***ing concept attached to it

Like wtf? Nigga penned an entire letter to your son saying you aint s***, you're a s*** father with an identity crisis and that he can step in and be your kid's mentor in your place, told your Dad its his fault you're f***ed up like you are, told your mom that you should die, and basically tried to dismantle your character. The level of brutality Kendrick came with is what i expect when niggas are posting nuclear bombs and niggas getting slaughtered to hype up your diss track

ryuH

2y

I respect this opinion and also respect you openly being biased

I appreciate you for not just calling me a Kendrick d*** rider to invalidate my opinion lol

Also I totally agree that most rappers are guilty of the things being accused on MTG including being dead beats and pedos lmao. Thats 100% facts. I fw MTG because of Kendrick’s surgical execution, I could really care less about him trying to take the moral high ground on Drake.

Personally I didn’t fw story of addidon because I felt like it was all tea with simple raps but MTG is the exact opposite imo. The story telling, execution, different cadences, and speaking from different perspectives are all classic Kendrick. S*** is like the diss equivalent of a song like Fear.

Also he’s obviously teasing Drake with the ovhoe and FAN 69God stuff, it’s not meant to be lyrically impressive, they are just catchy and funny chants, it’s why the song is a hit lol. I could see it not being catchy to someone who is biased towards Drake and against Kendrick though

Real

2y

There's a reason why some of our favorite artists ever stay off the internet. When you wallow in Twitter/forum takes for an extended period of time as an artist, it starts affecting how you see the music. Between Kendrick and Pusha T, you can tell he's more worried about the "Twitter moments" than not.

Big Sean got mentioned and STILL released the song because he didn't get in his feelings about it. That takes a lot.

JMF31

2y

Lmao it’s crazy.

I genuinely feel like there are more people who hate Drake, than there are Kendrick or Drake fans combined. This beef really made them feel like it’s finally a safe space to vocalize their hatred, discontent, jealousy, or whatever other suppressed emotions they have lol.

Kendrick won the beef because he controlled public perception… that just is what it is, unfortunately.

If we’re ACTUALLY talking about the music, the lyrics, and the content, Drake won.

But when battling in an arena where there no clearly defined winners and losers, the subjectivity of public perception is THE most important variable in determining a winner.

With the sheer number of people who dislike Drake far outweighing the number of fans either rapper has, Drake was doomed from the start. No matter what moves he made, y’all were always gonna find a way to change the narrative or move the goalposts so that he was losing.

KRlS

2y

Imagine paying your bodyguard to protect you but he end up balls deep in ya wifey instead 😭

Expert

2y

For Drake to get out of this he needs the biggest hit of his career to overshadow this.

Was out last night and legit wild seeing “certified pedophile” being said by the whole crowd. This way bigger than your girls tour line.

JMF31

2y

I fail you see how this is some of his “worst rapping”? I really liked the part you quoted. And before you say I’m biased, I also liked a lot of things that Kendrick said.

However, some of the worst lyricism I’ve ever heard is “OV-ho” and “69 god” lol. That’s some s*** that a local amateur rapper would say. Made me cringe.

NoFace

2y

not a single DJ played a Drake record while i was out this weekend, every DJ played NLU and/or Euphoria

browser

2y

I don’t think this is him conceding i think we’re about to get him trying to come back with singing and i needa one dance type records with shots lol

His version of what kendrick did with not like us

Round 2

FREE

2y

He already tried that wit Family Matters and Push Ups he done tried this already

LongLiveHipHop

2y

Also "we" hip hop def wasted 50 years arguing about authenticity who's pen is it???????? but then when i call you out and you call me out it's just lies....hip hop needs to grow up.

browser

2y

Nah real radio songs those are hard rap record songs but im talking like Controlla or One Dance

Even Find Your Love

FREE

2y

This nigga trynw drop knowledge cuz he lost

JMF31

2y

Lmao it’s crazy.

I genuinely feel like there are more people who hate Drake, than there are Kendrick or Drake fans combined. This beef really made them feel like it’s finally a safe space to vocalize their hatred, discontent, jealousy, or whatever other suppressed emotions they have lol.

Kendrick won the beef because he controlled public perception… that just is what it is, unfortunately.

If we’re ACTUALLY talking about the music, the lyrics, and the content, Drake won.

But when battling in an arena where there no clearly defined winners and losers, the subjectivity of public perception is THE most important variable in determining a winner.

With the sheer number of people who dislike Drake far outweighing the number of fans either rapper has, Drake was doomed from the start. No matter what moves he made, y’all were always gonna find a way to change the narrative or move the goalposts so that he was losing.

Expert

2y

The DJ playing a bit of Family Matter before saying fuxk that and transitioning NLU where I was lmao

BrickellBayside

2y

No one is checking for him now except die hands

What do y’all even be saying man

JMF31

2y

A family friend who is very loosely tapped into hip-hop, brought up this whole situation when we were hanging out, asking for clarity. He knows who the rappers are and had some semblance of what was going on… With no context, I played him all of the songs.

After finishing THP6 and I told him that was the last one, he was like, “Wow! Drake absolutely killed Kendrick in this beef.” He admitted that Kendrick made a banger in NLU, but speaking on the lyrics and content, Drake handily won… lol that’s coming from pretty much the only truly unbiased opinion I personally know. Anecdotal, yes, but it gets the point across.