Mar 1, 2021
international moIma go with Chicago Freestyle also. Lowkey I got an unpopular opinion with respect to how people in drake sxn talk about when to say when. I don't think WTSW is terrible, but for me it's very low on my list of the one verse "freestyle-esque" tracks. Idk what it is but I just don't love it like the timestamps, DND, 30 for 30, two birds one stone, etc.
The problem with When to Say When is that there aren't any stand out bars and his flow on it is awkward at some points and in general he ain't flowing on it with much energy or charisma as he usually does with these type of records. Add the fact that this is obviously a homage to one of Jay-Z best songs and this track is just one big disappointment even though by itself it isn't bad.
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Mar 1, 2021·1 replyChicago Freestyle is a classic Drake song. When To Say When is alright but disappointing considering the song it sampled
Mar 1, 2021·2 repliesJbreezyondeckChicago Freestyle is a classic Drake song. When To Say When is alright but disappointing considering the song it sampled
Drake just needs leave the Hov samples alone. He hasn’t dropped one version that was better than his. I know it’s out of admiration but still.
- Mar 1, 2021·1 replyAP3
Drake just needs leave the Hov samples alone. He hasn’t dropped one version that was better than his. I know it’s out of admiration but still.
Would rather him link up with Just Blaze again
- Mar 1, 2021·1 replyJbreezyondeck
Would rather him link up with Just Blaze again
Lord knows I want that again
- Mar 1, 2021·1 replyAP3
Lord knows I want that again
- Mar 1, 2021Jbreezyondeck
I’m going trigga happy just to see my niggas happy
- Mar 1, 2021·1 replyAP3
Drake just needs leave the Hov samples alone. He hasn’t dropped one version that was better than his. I know it’s out of admiration but still.
How many Hov samples as he even used? Only other one at the top of my head I can think of is Ignant S*** and I think him and Wayne did an amazing job on that. Even got a co-sign from Hov himself.
Edit: Wait I just remember Family Feud but again him and Wayne did well on that too. It at least wasn't a disappointment imo and technically that was Wayne doing it not Drake.
- Mar 1, 2021·1 replyKlaus
How many Hov samples as he even used? Only other one at the top of my head I can think of is Ignant S*** and I think him and Wayne did an amazing job on that. Even got a co-sign from Hov himself.
Edit: Wait I just remember Family Feud but again him and Wayne did well on that too. It at least wasn't a disappointment imo and technically that was Wayne doing it not Drake.
Family Feud is another one. I don’t Drake does a bad job or anything but usually on the Hov samples Drake is in his rap bag, he does well on them but also the comparisons come to play. Therefore potentially leading to unrealistic expectations, on Drakes best day he still isn’t half the rapper Jay Z is.
- Mar 1, 2021·1 replyAP3
Family Feud is another one. I don’t Drake does a bad job or anything but usually on the Hov samples Drake is in his rap bag, he does well on them but also the comparisons come to play. Therefore potentially leading to unrealistic expectations, on Drakes best day he still isn’t half the rapper Jay Z is.
Again you say usually like he has done a lot but all I know is When to Say When. Family Feud and Ignant S***. I don't think that's enough to say that. I only agree with When to Say When. Ignant S*** he did justice and Family Feud he did good too imo, I don't think that was so off from how Hov approached the song at all. Also I think on Drake's best day he seems him as a peer and contender for the his throne tbh. There is a reason he made Watch the Throne with Ye and have thrown shots back and off with him over the years after all.
- Mar 1, 2021·2 repliesKlaus
Again you say usually like he has done a lot but all I know is When to Say When. Family Feud and Ignant S***. I don't think that's enough to say that. I only agree with When to Say When. Ignant S*** he did justice and Family Feud he did good too imo, I don't think that was so off from how Hov approached the song at all. Also I think on Drake's best day he seems him as a peer and contender for the his throne tbh. There is a reason he made Watch the Throne with Ye and have thrown shots back and off with him over the years after all.
Fair point with the amount of songs. I’m not saying Drake did terrible, I just think he shouldnt rap over Hov songs. Those same raps would probably hit a lot harder on other tracks. Drake maybe a peer in terms of success and status, but that’s where it stops. Drake had his chance but with Meek and Pusha those are big Ls that can’t be blemished over. Also Drake needs to show more growth as an artist, he doesn’t have the voice Hov does.
Mar 1, 2021·edited·1 replyAP3Fair point with the amount of songs. I’m not saying Drake did terrible, I just think he shouldnt rap over Hov songs. Those same raps would probably hit a lot harder on other tracks. Drake maybe a peer in terms of success and status, but that’s where it stops. Drake had his chance but with Meek and Pusha those are big Ls that can’t be blemished over. Also Drake needs to show more growth as an artist, he doesn’t have the voice Hov does.
Jay-z had his chance with Nas and Cam’ron those are big L’s that can’t be blemished over.
See how easy that works
Oh yea and Tupac had him on hush 🤫
Gotta know your hiphop knowledge if you gonna use excuses to down 1 artists over another. I’m only making a point thats it.
- Mar 1, 2021·2 repliesThe 7 Day Theory
Jay-z had his chance with Nas and Cam’ron those are big L’s that can’t be blemished over.
See how easy that works
Oh yea and Tupac had him on hush 🤫
Gotta know your hiphop knowledge if you gonna use excuses to down 1 artists over another. I’m only making a point thats it.
Drake didn’t respond after conceding his loss. Hov taking Ls is up for debate because he at least responded afterwards. Has Hov ever been questioned for having a ghost writer? You can attempt to move goal post but those Ls Drake took are way worse that can’t be defended. And he won with Meek in battle lol
You really digging bro I respect it
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- Mar 1, 2021·1 replyAP3
Drake didn’t respond after conceding his loss. Hov taking Ls is up for debate because he at least responded afterwards. Has Hov ever been questioned for having a ghost writer? You can attempt to move goal post but those Ls Drake took are way worse that can’t be defended. And he won with Meek in battle lol
You really digging bro I respect it
Hov never responded to Cam’ron or Pac 😂
He actually did an interview and said he wasn’t gonna stup down to Cam level after Cam dissed his wife mom and all 😂
Know your hiphop knowledge before window jumping.
I can keep going with more response Hov never responded to
- Mar 1, 2021The 7 Day Theory
Hov never responded to Cam’ron or Pac 😂
He actually did an interview and said he wasn’t gonna stup down to Cam level after Cam dissed his wife mom and all 😂
Know your hiphop knowledge before window jumping.
I can keep going with more response Hov never responded to
Alright you got me
- Mar 2, 2021·1 replyAP3
Fair point with the amount of songs. I’m not saying Drake did terrible, I just think he shouldnt rap over Hov songs. Those same raps would probably hit a lot harder on other tracks. Drake maybe a peer in terms of success and status, but that’s where it stops. Drake had his chance but with Meek and Pusha those are big Ls that can’t be blemished over. Also Drake needs to show more growth as an artist, he doesn’t have the voice Hov does.
You acting like Hov ain't had L's himself. The GOAT himself sees Drake as a rival I don't think he needs anymore validation of his skills than that. Also look how long it took Jay to show more growth. and yeah he doesn't have the voice Hov has. He has the voice Drake has. He carved that himself and he still carving. Hopefully Certified Lover Boy can cement this because I don't blame the skepticism. Drake could definitely use a project that boosts his respect as a lyricist.
- Mar 2, 2021AP3
Drake didn’t respond after conceding his loss. Hov taking Ls is up for debate because he at least responded afterwards. Has Hov ever been questioned for having a ghost writer? You can attempt to move goal post but those Ls Drake took are way worse that can’t be defended. And he won with Meek in battle lol
You really digging bro I respect it
Hov definitely got questioned for having a ghostwriter. A lot of the greats have (Nas, Lil Wayne, Eminem).
- Mar 2, 2021Klaus
You acting like Hov ain't had L's himself. The GOAT himself sees Drake as a rival I don't think he needs anymore validation of his skills than that. Also look how long it took Jay to show more growth. and yeah he doesn't have the voice Hov has. He has the voice Drake has. He carved that himself and he still carving. Hopefully Certified Lover Boy can cement this because I don't blame the skepticism. Drake could definitely use a project that boosts his respect as a lyricist.
I’m rooting for Drake that he can, but the L with TSOA with not responding afterwards is a devastating L. I really wanted him to go back at Pusha but it didn’t happen. I just looks like Drake bit more off than he can chew. All the other Ls are forgivable, and actually Drake already overcame those, he did that by responding. Which he didn’t do with TSOA.
Honestly when his fame dies down a little bit and he can just focus crafting art, that’s when he’ll tap into his potential.
- Mar 2, 2021
this video changed my life for the better not even gon cap