thegreatdivine

1y

Many of these "reports" are false lmao. He never dated Kylie or Hailey. Those sre facts. The "dinner" they had was him going out to eat with friends and she simply tagging along because they were going to the same restaurant and she was hanging out with Kylie at the time. That's it. They never had dinner together again.

What's funny about using these things as examples is that there are rappers with a lot worse s*** in their past that none of you are trying to label pedophiles like I don't know, an adult Tyga who actually dated and had intercourse with a teenage Kylie Jenner and rapped multiple times about it? That's something y'all act like never happened. Or an adult Travis Scott who Ruby Rose confirmed she dated and f***ed as a teenager lmao. Something y'all also sidestep.

But Drake, who, every young woman y'all bring up, has vehemently denied ever having inappropriate relations or interactions with is who y'all keep insisting is a weirdo and must have done weird things with them. It's not hard to see the play.

thegreatdivine

1y

You can tell MANY people were excited about NLU because they believed countless victims would pop out to prove Kendrick was telling the truth. Till today, nothing. If anything, women they tried to use as examples of him being a weirdo came out to insist they had nothing inappropriate with them.

Someone with common sense would see and understand that if someone as famous and with as massive a magnifying glass on their life as Drake has was indeed doing all this pedo s***, they'd have some proof of it by now but then I remember how most people are idiots.

Avalanche

1y

I sometimes wonder what Kendrick’s thought process with all this is like. His song prior to the beef, has always about integrity, personal growth, and doing right by oneself. He lied to try to win a rap beef, he sold his soul by throwing wild accusations around for the sake of entertainment, and created a p*do moment. If I go by the picture he portrayed himself to be in his last albums, bruh would be conflicted by now, trying to find a way to right his wrongs. Unless that’s not who he is, he doesn’t care about integrity and stuff like that. But rather they’re his attempt at performative self improvement, his attempt to create art. Which makes his records hollow because they’re not based on authenticity

SWAN

1y

lol

if you’re expecting kendrick to approach it like a self-improvement seminar, you’re misunderstanding the point of a diss track

turning personal truths or even vague rumors into weapons is standard practice in rap beefs

shady23axd

1y

Once again I'm not saying he's a pedo. I'm just saying there are a lot of instances in the past which Kendrick used as Drake asked him to.

I completely agree with you on all the other stuff, no need to get so defensive

Tilia

1y

Nah I agree with you. Kendrick did beat him on every front, I just dont know if Universal played a part in it for their own gain. Like Drake claiming UMG getting rid of people with loyalty towards OVO and stuff like that. But yeah we’ll see whats true and not

JPEGMAFIA

1y

I mean I won't deny it's possible UMG played into this to devalue Drake but it just seems really farfetched to me. Imagine an NFL devaluing their player before contract negotiations when the playoffs coming up

To me these reactors were gunna react regardless and as long as UMG didn't say "hey give Kendrick favorable reactions and we won't copyright your videos" then it'd be an issue, but to my understanding the videos just weren't copyrighted at all. Ak and the Pollo guy benefited from this as well

Tilia

1y

Its nice to talk to someone not trolling for once on here
Appreciate your views

JPEGMAFIA

1y

It's not the same thing lol. I think the difference in perspective is you're coming from the assumption that UMG is the puppet master and used Kendrick to defame Drake and devalue him for upcoming contract negotiations and I view it as Kendrick strategically dismantling Drake and beating him on every single front. Rapping, influencers, hit record, memes, etc, all of which Drake has used to his advantage in rap beef before

I believe if Drake wanted to he could have removed the copyright from his disses and allowed the reactors to eat off of them too, unless you think UMG wouldn't allow that

JPEGMAFIA

1y

I mean I won't deny it's possible UMG played into this to devalue Drake but it just seems really farfetched to me. Imagine an NFL devaluing their player before contract negotiations when the playoffs coming up

To me these reactors were gunna react regardless and as long as UMG didn't say "hey give Kendrick favorable reactions and we won't copyright your videos" then it'd be an issue, but to my understanding the videos just weren't copyrighted at all. Ak and the Pollo guy benefited from this as well

scoop

1y

i dont get the angle about the reactors. unless im missing something all of drakes disses had reaction videos all the way back to push ups.

thegreatdivine

1y

If you just took the time to read the lawsuit or even skim through it, you wouldn't need to ask all these questions lol. It's all laid out there for everyone to understand.

scoop

1y

you coulda just gave me the tldr instead of writing this post lmao

thegreatdivine

1y

You might not know it but this is something that happens A LOT in the NBA.

Some teams start playing their star players in heavy minutes when they know their contracts will be up in the next year. The heavy workload = more chances of them getting injured and that in turn means them sitting out tons of game = less playing time and less leverage when the time comes for renegotiations. That's why now some select superstar players reup before their contracts are up, just so they can still get deals worth their stature in case they get injured later on. It's definitely something that happens in professional sports.

thegreatdivine

1y

Link to full lawsuit in case you wanna go through it:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25491670-aubrey-graham-vs-umg/

KIDBlNO

1y

Didn’t realize people defended Drake strongly when it came to the Ephebophilia stuff when it’s already pretty obviously true no matter how you try to spin it . He has a couple of classic albums but is a rlly weird guy . Not worth defending online even excluding that stuff cause you still have the predatory tactics he takes part in to attract underage players to the fake and gay gambling site Stake.

“But you have to verify your identity And show ID!”
Yeah you also have to do the same for Roblox voice chat and look how many kids get past that with ease

Lmfao

1y

That’s why being a stan is a disease. You got Drake stans like @thegreatdivine saying “Name me one other time Drake publicly groped a minor” like it ain’t a big deal if it’s only once.

scoop

1y

but this doesnt explain how people were still able to react to Drakes songs as well?

JPEGMAFIA

1y

I guess it's a bad a***ogy, but that would never happen in the NBA with LeBron or KD or Steph cause those top tier guys always get the max contract. What you said definitely happens with role players or guys they don't care as much about re-signing, but Drake is LeBron to UMG

UMG conspiring to devalue Drake so they can sign him to less $$ tonthen turn around and promote his music and do whatever theyve done over the last 10~ years just does not sound believable to me. I'm not in these meetings I can't say for a fact that's just my observation as somebody who doesn't know anything

scoop

1y

but this doesnt explain how people were still able to react to Drakes songs as well?

thegreatdivine

1y

His issue isn't with them reacting. People also reacted to Drake's songs.

The issue is that UMG removed the copyright off NLU reactions so they could be whitelisted and monetized, actions that made even more people react to the songs and spread the narrative of the song further with hundreds of videos having millions of views. It's all there in the suit.

KIDBlNO

1y

Didn’t realize people defended Drake strongly when it came to the Ephebophilia stuff when it’s already pretty obviously true no matter how you try to spin it . He has a couple of classic albums but is a rlly weird guy . Not worth defending online even excluding that stuff cause you still have the predatory tactics he takes part in to attract underage players to the fake and gay gambling site Stake.

“But you have to verify your identity And show ID!”
Yeah you also have to do the same for Roblox voice chat and look how many kids get past that with ease

Avalanche

1y

I sometimes wonder what Kendrick’s thought process with all this is like. His song prior to the beef, has always about integrity, personal growth, and doing right by oneself. He lied to try to win a rap beef, he sold his soul by throwing wild accusations around for the sake of entertainment, and created a p*do moment. If I go by the picture he portrayed himself to be in his last albums, bruh would be conflicted by now, trying to find a way to right his wrongs. Unless that’s not who he is, he doesn’t care about integrity and stuff like that. But rather they’re his attempt at performative self improvement, his attempt to create art. Which makes his records hollow because they’re not based on authenticity