As corny as he is Eminem had the game on lock back then
So did B.O.B. for a year
Lil Wayne was still gigantic
Kanye was huge
Jay-Z was huge
Nicki was huge
TI was big
Wiz Khalifa was big
Mac Miller was big
Wale was big
Cole, Rocky, Kendrick were coming up
Macklemore's white ass ran a year too
All pulled via wiki all albums between 2009 - 2012 / 2013 (Rocky)
Eminem - Recovery 2010 - The album debuted at number one on the Billboard 200 with first-week sales of 741,000 copies
B.o.B - The Adventures of Bobby Ray 2010 - The album debuted at number one on the US Billboard 200 chart, selling 84,000 copies in its first week
Lil Wayne - I Am Not a Human Being 2010 debuted at number two on the US Billboard 200 chart, selling 110,000 digital copies in its first week. / Rebirth 2010 debuted at number two on the US Billboard 200 chart, with first week sales of 176,000 copies.
Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy 2010 debuted at number one on the US Billboard 200, selling 496,000 copies
The Throne - Watch The Throne 2011 - The album debuted at number one on the US Billboard 200, selling 436,000 copies in the first week, and broke the iTunes first week sales record at the time.
Jay-Z - Blueprint 3 2009 - It debuted at number one on the US Billboard 200 chart, selling 476,000 copies in its first week
Nicki - Pink Friday 2010 - debuted at number two on the US Billboard 200, selling 375,000 copies in its first week
TI - No Mercy 2010 - debuted and peaked at number four on the US Billboard 200 chart, selling 159,000 copies in its first week
Wiz Khalifa - Deal or No Deal 2009 - Upon its release, the album sold 5,900 copies in its first week / Rolling Papers 2011 debuted at number two on the Billboard 200, with first-week sales of 197,000 copies in the United States
Mac Miller - Blue Slide Park 2010 - debuted at number one on the US Billboard 200 chart, selling 144,000 copies in its first week.
Wale Attention Deficit 2009 - debuted at number 21 on the US Billboard 200 chart, selling 28,000 copies in its first week / Ambition 2011 - debuted at number two on the US Billboard 200 chart, selling 164,000 copies in its first week
J. Cole - Cole World The Sideline Story 2011 - debuted at number one on the US Billboard 200, with 218,000 copies sold in the first week following its release
A$AP Rocky - Long. Live. ASAP 2013 - debuted at number one on the US Billboard 200, with 139,000 album-equivalent units and 139,000 copies in pure album sales in its first week
Kendrick - Section.80 2011 - In its first week, the album sold 5,000 copies in the United States and debuted at number 113 on the US Billboard 200, with minimal mainstream media promotion and coverage. Within a two-week period, the album sold a total of 9,000 copies in the United States / Good Kid MAAD City 2012 - The album debuted at number two on the US Billboard 200, selling 242,000 copies in its first week
Macklemore - The Heist 2012 - The album sold 78,000 copies in its first week, debuting at number two on the Billboard 200.
Drake - Thank Me Later 2010 - debuted at number one on the Billboard 200 with first week sales of 447,000 copies in the US / Take Care 2011 - debuted at number one on the Billboard 200, selling 631,000 copies in its first week
Future - Pluto 2012 - debuting at number eight on the US Billboard 200, selling 41,000 copies in its first week.
Rick Ross - Teflon Don 2010 - debuted at number two on the US Billboard 200 chart, selling 176,300 copies in its first week.
Drake was not THE biggest but come on.....
Em
Kanye
Jay
Drake
The Throne
Yeah im sure elementary kids had consistent access to Room for Improvement, Comeback Season and So Far Gone
Every single one they was on datpiff, mixtape monkey and livemixtapes
They was on RapRadar and 2DopeBoys newsletters heavy frfr hiphop to death from the womb
No where close to Drake’s dominance
Maybe not but they still today if they drop a album would do numbers
Taylor Swift as well. The two best musical artists in the world.
Gouged my eyes out after reading this, thanks.
Drake became the biggest rapper after Take Care came out. So 2012 and on.
Take Care solidified him there and NWTS cemented him imo
SFG hit in 09 and s*** hasn’t really let up since then
If he can keep this level of hype up until 2029 that would definitely be unprecedented
I mean it’s one thing to have a 20 year career but to dominate the way he has for 20 years hasn’t been done
It’ll be interesting to hear what a 45-50yo Drake will sound like. If you look at pictures of him from ten years ago and look at him now, he’s aged quite a bit.
Insane revisionism. Are you a child? Drake was not popular in 2008. Even in 2009 - 2012, he wasn't "on top" yet, as successful as he may have been. The first year he indisputably ran was 2014 (off features alone btw). Before that, he was never #1 rapper. So we are talking about a 10 year run right now. He would still have to be #1 until 2034 which is a long time away
Op was crazy saying ‘08 but 2011 was where it started.
Take Care solidified him there and NWTS cemented him imo
Yea, I think after 2011 it was more that the Ye/Wayne/Late 2000's Em Era was ending.
But after NWTS, that's when he started to really separate himself from his peers.
Taylor Swift as well. The two best musical artists in the world.
Truly genius artists of unmatched financial success I mean creative brilliance
Eminem, Kanye, Jay, Nas
Jay and Nas aren’t there anymore commercially
I love the King’s Disease albums though
I have more respect of Drake in recent years then when he started out
Drake took what Pac did and made it better and did it smarter
I count Drake's run of dominance from 2009 because that's quite literally when it started. He's been the most dominant rapper amongst his peers since then. By 2010, the only rapper who was outselling him was Eminem and I'm not just talking about first week numbers. Carter 4 had the biggert debut week compared to Take Care but Take Care has outsold/out-charted that album BY FAR. By 2011, he was already the most consistent hitmaker in the rap game.
I'm definitely not counting his run from 2013 or 2014. That s*** started from 2009.
Drake took what Pac did and made it better and did it smarter
Idk about all that but okay
It’ll be interesting to hear what a 45-50yo Drake will sound like. If you look at pictures of him from ten years ago and look at him now, he’s aged quite a bit.
He will sound like whatever is popping at the time
He started gaining mainstream success around 2008, and 16 years later he still the most talked about rapper, its crazy. Has anyone else ever dominated this long?
Kanye west
As someone who was in HS in the early 2010’s and followed rap closely Drake was already compared to the top guys at an exceptionally early stage in his mainstream career. So OP isn’t wrong.
It started to become clear that Drake was in a league of his own in 2013 and by 2016 he’s in another stratosphere.
For the closest comparison we would need to go out of rap into pop with Michael’s 25 year solo career run (late 1970’s to early 2000s, longer if you count the Jackson 5) or Madonnas (1980’s to 2000s).
It’s wild HOW dominant Drake’s been though. Even the aforementioned artists had breaks in between albums. Drake hasn’t really given up much time for anyone else to jump in.
It’s complete dominance since 2016.
Idk about all that but okay
I mean hes not picking fistfights with gang bangers at the MGM so I gotta say hes at least a little smarter
It's funny how people still count Eminem out when MTBMB was still one of the best selling albums of 2020 regardless of genre and he's killing it in streaming while being semi-retired.
Go to any country in the world outside North America and I bet more people know who Eminem is than Drake.
2009, So Far Gone came out in summer. He was not the number one rapper off So Far Gone...2009, I would say Jay-Z, Kanye West, Eminem were the big rappers. Lil Wayne was important too.
2010 was Eminem's year. Kanye dropped MBDTF, Lil Wayne had two big albums (one was a rock album). B.O.B. was bigger than Drake this year as well.
2011 was Eminem, Wiz Khalifa, Nicki Minaj, Jay Z & Kanye (Watch the Throne), Lil Wayne (Carter IV). Drake had hot features. Take Care didnt even reach #1 the week it came out because of Carter IV. I'd put Drake at the upper level here but he wasn't "number one" yet.
2012 Drake might have been top 3 since a lot of the big names didnt drop.
2013 you have Nothing Was The Same, which was big, but you shouldnt forget that Eminem dropped a big album, Kanye dropped, Jay dropped as well, Wale dropped (he was still big at the time), Mac Miller dropped, and Macklemore was having an insane run (now mostly forgotten about)
The mega stardom of Drake was when Views was about to drop. At that point you couldnt deny his fame and he became very successful overseas as well, mostly due to pop songs like One Dance or Hotline Bling
The rap domination I would say started in 2014 with an amazing feature run. When he dropped two big tapes in 2015 and he won against Meek Mill he was the new top dog. Before that he always shared the crown with others
When did the game turn into the Drake show
As someone who was in HS in the early 2010’s and followed rap closely Drake was already compared to the top guys at an exceptionally early stage in his mainstream career. So OP isn’t wrong.
It started to become clear that Drake was in a league of his own in 2013 and by 2016 he’s in another stratosphere.
For the closest comparison we would need to go out of rap into pop with Michael’s 25 year solo career run (late 1970’s to early 2000s, longer if you count the Jackson 5) or Madonnas (1980’s to 2000s).
It’s wild HOW dominant Drake’s been though. Even the aforementioned artists had breaks in between albums. Drake hasn’t really given up much time for anyone else to jump in.
It’s complete dominance since 2016.
It's been dominance since way before 2016. You can't just use album sales to account for dominance. You have to consider everything from hit singles to overall impact. For instance, up until 2013, Eminem was still scoring bigger album debuts than Drake but I wouldn't say he dominated over Drake that year. Drake had the more impactful album and had way bigger singles. Same in 2012 and even 2011.
When people speak on Drake's run, it's less about when he became the #1 guy because that's quite subjective and more about how long he's been dominating the game and that started in 2009 with So Far Gone's impact, Best I Ever Had/Successful being hits and the omnipresence his features gave him starting from then.
It's funny how people still count Eminem out when MTBMB was still one of the best selling albums of 2020 regardless of genre and he's killing it in streaming while being semi-retired.
Go to any country in the world outside North America and I bet more people know who Eminem is than Drake.
This is facts.
Never underestimate just how big Em actually is.
I think it’s obvious he’s still more famous than Drake. He’s also the only rapper that can compete with him on end of year album sales charts. No one else is coming close.