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  • Feb 12, 2025
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    quadra

    When was that said?

    I’m glad you asked friend

  • Feb 12, 2025
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    Jalen Brunson Fan

    I’m glad you asked friend

    So me explaining how Weeknd fans mass consuming his physicals don't get played = artists shouldn't drop physicals?

    Lol no

    Good try babe!

  • Feb 12, 2025
    OVOGlobetrotter

    No it’s fine, but let’s not act like there isn’t a difference between 100k units being physicals and 100k units being streams, they mean vastly different things and people like to conflate them to make themselves feel better about things not getting streams

    The difference is one is active support and the other is passive support

  • Feb 12, 2025
    quadra

    So me explaining how Weeknd fans mass consuming his physicals don't get played = artists shouldn't drop physicals?

    Lol no

    Good try babe!

    That’s literally what you’re implying

  • Feb 12, 2025
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    quadra

    So me explaining how Weeknd fans mass consuming his physicals don't get played = artists shouldn't drop physicals?

    Lol no

    Good try babe!

    Lol no, it’s the constant degradation of physical units yall have been doing for years to try and minimize the fanbases that actually buy their favorite artists music, and make it seem like an illegitimate form of music consumption when it’s the opposite

  • Feb 12, 2025
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    quadra

    So me explaining how Weeknd fans mass consuming his physicals don't get played = artists shouldn't drop physicals?

    Lol no

    Good try babe!

    After they see that something that did high physicals get no play irl it creates a disconnect in them they can’t handle. They want it to be it the same achievement as 100k streams when it’s not

  • Feb 12, 2025
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    OVOGlobetrotter

    After they see that something that did high physicals get no play irl it creates a disconnect in them they can’t handle. They want it to be it the same achievement as 100k streams when it’s not

    How is it any different than someone streaming the album once and never coming back to it? it still counts towards the sale

  • Feb 12, 2025
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    Jalen Brunson Fan

    Lol no, it’s the constant degradation of physical units yall have been doing for years to try and minimize the fanbases that actually buy their favorite artists music, and make it seem like an illegitimate form of music consumption when it’s the opposite

    Nobody degrades it but you could buy a cd or vinyl and literally never listen to it, in order to earn even a decent amount of streams people need to actively consuming your music

  • Feb 12, 2025
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    OVOGlobetrotter

    No it’s fine, but let’s not act like there isn’t a difference between 100k units being physicals and 100k units being streams, they mean vastly different things and people like to conflate them to make themselves feel better about things not getting streams

    But 100k units in streams means ZERO people cared enough to purchase the product

    So people like to make themselves feel better about things not getting pure sales by thinking streaming is the end-all-be-all of consumption

  • Feb 12, 2025
    OVOGlobetrotter

    After they see that something that did high physicals get no play irl it creates a disconnect in them they can’t handle. They want it to be it the same achievement as 100k streams when it’s not

    You’re right, it’s a more impressive achievement

    Streams are passive support and can be easily fabricated and manipulated.

    If you were an artist you would much rather sell 100K physical copies rather than get 100K streams

  • Feb 12, 2025
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    Jalen Brunson Fan

    How is it any different than someone streaming the album once and never coming back to it? it still counts towards the sale

    If you stream to the album front to back that is not a sale

  • Feb 12, 2025
    K DOG 99

    But 100k units in streams means ZERO people cared enough to purchase the product

    So people like to make themselves feel better about things not getting pure sales by thinking streaming is the end-all-be-all of consumption

    Streaming has completely brainwashed people man, it’s literally had direct negative effects on both the music AND the film industry

  • K DOG 99

    But 100k units in streams means ZERO people cared enough to purchase the product

    So people like to make themselves feel better about things not getting pure sales by thinking streaming is the end-all-be-all of consumption

    When its primary way most people engage with music yes it is

  • Feb 12, 2025
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    OVOGlobetrotter

    If you stream to the album front to back that is not a sale

    It’s amazing that you don’t see anything wrong with that lol

  • Feb 12, 2025
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    Jalen Brunson Fan

    How is it any different than someone streaming the album once and never coming back to it? it still counts towards the sale

    Don’t care for the convo but isn’t it like 1500 streams = 1 physical sale so your logic wouldn’t make sense in this case

  • Feb 12, 2025
    OVOGlobetrotter

    Nobody degrades it but you could buy a cd or vinyl and literally never listen to it, in order to earn even a decent amount of streams people need to actively consuming your music

    If 500 fans play ONE song on the album three times each that counts as an album sale as well. How does that make sense?

  • Feb 12, 2025
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    Campari

    Don’t care for the convo but isn’t it like 1500 streams = 1 physical sale so your logic wouldn’t make sense in this case

    You’re right, just goes to show how silly streaming is when it comes to album sales. How the hell does 1500 streams of something equate to one album sale? Lol

  • Jalen Brunson Fan

    It’s amazing that you don’t see anything wrong with that lol

    I never said what my opinion on it was, just simply that it’s not the case nobody is taking about your hypothetical fairy land where the music industry is some perfectly fair and balanced business , we’re taking about reality and that’s what it is

  • Feb 12, 2025
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    Jalen Brunson Fan

    You’re right, just goes to show how silly streaming is when it comes to album sales. How the hell does 1500 streams of something equate to one album sale? Lol

    I mean sure but there’s probably people much smarter than you and I that have done some sort of math to equate it to that number

  • Jalen Brunson Fan

    You’re right, just goes to show how silly streaming is when it comes to album sales. How the hell does 1500 streams of something equate to one album sale? Lol

    Because streaming is very accessible and generates basically no revenue, companies like Spotify have small margins and limited room for growth and monetization, everyone likes it because you can decades worth of music at your fingertips for $10 a month, but when you split that 10 dollars among all the songs you listened to it’s basically nothing

  • Feb 12, 2025
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    Campari

    I mean sure but there’s probably people much smarter than you and I that have done some sort of math to equate it to that number

    That’s literally what it is guy just has no clue

  • Feb 12, 2025
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    OVOGlobetrotter

    That’s literally what it is guy just has no clue

    My point being is that we shouldn’t see physical album sales as something less than streaming. 100K units is still 100K units

  • The real truth is people need to be willing to pay significantly more for streaming services (like $50 a month) or be prepared to accept that fact that the market has changed and streaming at least as we know it is not going anywhere soon

  • Feb 12, 2025
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    Jalen Brunson Fan

    My point being is that we shouldn’t see physical album sales as something less than streaming. 100K units is still 100K units

    It’s not less than but it’s also not equal, it’s just different, idk why that seems hard to accept

  • Feb 12, 2025
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    OVOGlobetrotter

    It’s not less than but it’s also not equal, it’s just different, idk why that seems hard to accept

    “They want it to be the same achievement as streaming 100K units and it’s not”

    This is literally implying that selling physicals is less than streaming.

    When in reality in 2025, it is 100% harder to sell 100K physical copies than it is to get 100K streaming units