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  • Jan 20, 2022
    rx friendly ghost

    dam i thought you wanted to hear me ramble

    i did you was speaking some troof

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    Innocent

    When you hit Alt+A for the hi hat roll that s*** literally says arpeggiate brother

    niggas are not using logic.

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    Double entendre don't even ask me how

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    It's not trap it's horrorcore

  • Jan 20, 2022
    insertcoolnamehere

    niggas are not using logic.

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    Double entendre don't even ask me how

    bar

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    rx friendly ghost

    im not complaining about pretentiousness

    You are

    Name me one anonymous or mysterious producer that even remotely fits your description and is also untalented

    Like wtf is your point

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    rayray

    Refusing to acknowledge people trying to change the meaning of genre because they can’t find another label for it and they hear “beats” used from the original genre. Ok buddy

    Dawg niggas like Lex Luger (and others) sound became so popular and copied at one point that it became the trap sound. Fans decided that. Nobody literally sound down like “duuurrrh I can’t think of another name so it’s trap!” And even non-trap artists adopted those beats, but “trap” was still tied to those beats and that sound. This is why today it’s still associated with it. But we all still know what the original is…

    It’s clear as day, you don’t want to accept it that’s fine G. I ain’t finna keep talking in circles tho. Be blessed!

    (Kinda funny tho having a prince avy cus of how “Pop” also changed, but that’s neither here nor there)

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    insertcoolnamehere

    as a piano playing music major, yall dragging tryna harp on that point of his tweet lmfao

  • Jan 20, 2022
    chasewalked

    idk. i feel like if a rap artist put out a song with a bunch of edm sounds niggas would be like "lol so this man making edm now?" and the same arguments would ensue.

    i think that actually happened with this joint

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4Co_H50hUw&ab_channel=asapfergVEVO

    i forgot about this trash

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    ARCADE GOON

    You are

    Name me one anonymous or mysterious producer that even remotely fits your description and is also untalented

    Like wtf is your point

    how to dress well

  • Jan 20, 2022
    Rockstard

    I'm just sayin bro. Like you know what he meant by saying arpeggiated high hats lmfao.

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    rx friendly ghost

    how to dress well

    He was never anonymous
    He is definitely talented
    His music was good for what it was
    His first album wasn't even pop or r&b just more ambient

    This entire forum is just full of haters for real. All you guys do is f***ing b**** and complain all day holy moly

  • Jan 20, 2022

    this tweet is because people are calling titanic trap right

  • Jan 20, 2022
    chasewalked

    idk. i feel like if a rap artist put out a song with a bunch of edm sounds niggas would be like "lol so this man making edm now?" and the same arguments would ensue.

    i think that actually happened with this joint

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4Co_H50hUw&ab_channel=asapfergVEVO

    I remember this too lol. Yea I mean it happened with drake too with dancehall and even with Uzi recently with his last single. But EDM music doesn’t really emphasize on subject matter. More so just that electronic sound. But I see where the argument could start though so you do have a point

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    rayray

    It’s crazy cause trap music is I think the only genre with this issue. I can’t think of anything in rock that had the same issue besides death metal and grindcore. Because subject matter played a huge part as much as the instruments did too

    it also has a lot to do with the gentrification of the genre. there is no other genre that had its roots in extreme poverty--specifically affecting black communities and pushing dope and s*** to pay the bills--and now is the #1 genre in the world to the point where every other genre and act has in some way shape or form been influenced by it.

    you can look at jazz as a parallel but it is nowhere near as accessible

  • Jan 20, 2022

    He's right.

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    ARCADE GOON

    He was never anonymous
    He is definitely talented
    His music was good for what it was
    His first album wasn't even pop or r&b just more ambient

    This entire forum is just full of haters for real. All you guys do is f***ing b**** and complain all day holy moly

    he was a hack whose whole shtick was 'coming out of the shadows' and was explicitly picked up by blogs for his "off kilter" r&b

    anyway i wasn't even hating on artists til now my problem was the journos and tastemakers

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    No, my opinion as a KTT2 member on rap holds more weight than a rapper does

  • Jan 20, 2022

    Yea

    S*** is trap production though so I see why ppl make that connection

  • Jan 20, 2022

    I've seen so many dummies on here pass off something as generic trap and be completely wrong so s/o to Earl for tweeting about this

  • Jan 20, 2022
    insertcoolnamehere

    Listen to the title track and Vision and then get back at me brodie.

    You keep hammering in the same point when you're just wrong lol.

    Off topic but tbh Earl over trap-esque beats is the s*** fr

    SRS was fantastic but i was missing him on some fatter instrumentation like 2010 or Vision

    s/o Black Noi$e too his production is really fire

  • Jan 20, 2022
    Nothing Was New

    No, my opinion as a KTT2 member on rap holds more weight than a rapper does

    fallacy

  • Jan 20, 2022
    Not Like Josuke

    Dawg niggas like Lex Luger (and others) sound became so popular and copied at one point that it became the trap sound. Fans decided that. Nobody literally sound down like “duuurrrh I can’t think of another name so it’s trap!” And even non-trap artists adopted those beats, but “trap” was still tied to those beats and that sound. This is why today it’s still associated with it. But we all still know what the original is…

    It’s clear as day, you don’t want to accept it that’s fine G. I ain’t finna keep talking in circles tho. Be blessed!

    (Kinda funny tho having a prince avy cus of how “Pop” also changed, but that’s neither here nor there)

    I swear to God if you somehow bring prince into this dumbass conversation. And pop music is legit just “popular music”. Yea there is a method and ways to strategically create a song meant to reach pop but that’s another discussion. Listen nice chatting, and it’s not that I don’t want to accept it. It’s just that it’s wrong. It’s what music critics do with every single genre and the reason people defend it the most with trap right now because that Is one where subject matter is just important as the beat when being created so you can agree with white people and music industry dorks pushing this s*** but I’m not. I know what trap music is and I know what music being influenced from trap beats is. Enjoy the rest of your day

  • Jan 20, 2022
    chasewalked

    it also has a lot to do with the gentrification of the genre. there is no other genre that had its roots in extreme poverty--specifically affecting black communities and pushing dope and s*** to pay the bills--and now is the #1 genre in the world to the point where every other genre and act has in some way shape or form been influenced by it.

    you can look at jazz as a parallel but it is nowhere near as accessible

    BINGO!!!

  • Jan 20, 2022
    chasewalked

    it also has a lot to do with the gentrification of the genre. there is no other genre that had its roots in extreme poverty--specifically affecting black communities and pushing dope and s*** to pay the bills--and now is the #1 genre in the world to the point where every other genre and act has in some way shape or form been influenced by it.

    you can look at jazz as a parallel but it is nowhere near as accessible

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    rx friendly ghost

    he was a hack whose whole shtick was 'coming out of the shadows' and was explicitly picked up by blogs for his "off kilter" r&b

    anyway i wasn't even hating on artists til now my problem was the journos and tastemakers

    How was he a hack lmao

    Lil B also did his thing on this beat

    And how can you blame an artist for his reception by random bozos online

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