dam i thought you wanted to hear me ramble
i did you was speaking some troof
When you hit Alt+A for the hi hat roll that s*** literally says arpeggiate brother
niggas are not using logic.
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Double entendre don't even ask me how
niggas are not using logic.
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Double entendre don't even ask me how
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im not complaining about pretentiousness
You are
Name me one anonymous or mysterious producer that even remotely fits your description and is also untalented
Like wtf is your point
Refusing to acknowledge people trying to change the meaning of genre because they can’t find another label for it and they hear “beats” used from the original genre. Ok buddy
Dawg niggas like Lex Luger (and others) sound became so popular and copied at one point that it became the trap sound. Fans decided that. Nobody literally sound down like “duuurrrh I can’t think of another name so it’s trap!” And even non-trap artists adopted those beats, but “trap” was still tied to those beats and that sound. This is why today it’s still associated with it. But we all still know what the original is…
It’s clear as day, you don’t want to accept it that’s fine G. I ain’t finna keep talking in circles tho. Be blessed!
(Kinda funny tho having a prince avy cus of how “Pop” also changed, but that’s neither here nor there)
as a piano playing music major, yall dragging tryna harp on that point of his tweet lmfao

idk. i feel like if a rap artist put out a song with a bunch of edm sounds niggas would be like "lol so this man making edm now?" and the same arguments would ensue.
i think that actually happened with this joint
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4Co_H50hUw&ab_channel=asapfergVEVOi forgot about this trash
You are
Name me one anonymous or mysterious producer that even remotely fits your description and is also untalented
Like wtf is your point
how to dress well

I'm just sayin bro. Like you know what he meant by saying arpeggiated high hats lmfao.
how to dress well
He was never anonymous
He is definitely talented
His music was good for what it was
His first album wasn't even pop or r&b just more ambient
This entire forum is just full of haters for real. All you guys do is f***ing b**** and complain all day holy moly
idk. i feel like if a rap artist put out a song with a bunch of edm sounds niggas would be like "lol so this man making edm now?" and the same arguments would ensue.
i think that actually happened with this joint
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4Co_H50hUw&ab_channel=asapfergVEVOI remember this too lol. Yea I mean it happened with drake too with dancehall and even with Uzi recently with his last single. But EDM music doesn’t really emphasize on subject matter. More so just that electronic sound. But I see where the argument could start though so you do have a point
It’s crazy cause trap music is I think the only genre with this issue. I can’t think of anything in rock that had the same issue besides death metal and grindcore. Because subject matter played a huge part as much as the instruments did too
it also has a lot to do with the gentrification of the genre. there is no other genre that had its roots in extreme poverty--specifically affecting black communities and pushing dope and s*** to pay the bills--and now is the #1 genre in the world to the point where every other genre and act has in some way shape or form been influenced by it.
you can look at jazz as a parallel but it is nowhere near as accessible
He was never anonymous
He is definitely talented
His music was good for what it was
His first album wasn't even pop or r&b just more ambient
This entire forum is just full of haters for real. All you guys do is f***ing b**** and complain all day holy moly
he was a hack whose whole shtick was 'coming out of the shadows' and was explicitly picked up by blogs for his "off kilter" r&b
anyway i wasn't even hating on artists til now my problem was the journos and tastemakers
Yea
S*** is trap production though so I see why ppl make that connection
I've seen so many dummies on here pass off something as generic trap and be completely wrong so s/o to Earl for tweeting about this
Listen to the title track and Vision and then get back at me brodie.
You keep hammering in the same point when you're just wrong lol.
Off topic but tbh Earl over trap-esque beats is the s*** fr
SRS was fantastic but i was missing him on some fatter instrumentation like 2010 or Vision
s/o Black Noi$e too his production is really fire
No, my opinion as a KTT2 member on rap holds more weight than a rapper does
fallacy
Dawg niggas like Lex Luger (and others) sound became so popular and copied at one point that it became the trap sound. Fans decided that. Nobody literally sound down like “duuurrrh I can’t think of another name so it’s trap!” And even non-trap artists adopted those beats, but “trap” was still tied to those beats and that sound. This is why today it’s still associated with it. But we all still know what the original is…
It’s clear as day, you don’t want to accept it that’s fine G. I ain’t finna keep talking in circles tho. Be blessed!
(Kinda funny tho having a prince avy cus of how “Pop” also changed, but that’s neither here nor there)
I swear to God if you somehow bring prince into this dumbass conversation. And pop music is legit just “popular music”. Yea there is a method and ways to strategically create a song meant to reach pop but that’s another discussion. Listen nice chatting, and it’s not that I don’t want to accept it. It’s just that it’s wrong. It’s what music critics do with every single genre and the reason people defend it the most with trap right now because that Is one where subject matter is just important as the beat when being created so you can agree with white people and music industry dorks pushing this s*** but I’m not. I know what trap music is and I know what music being influenced from trap beats is. Enjoy the rest of your day
it also has a lot to do with the gentrification of the genre. there is no other genre that had its roots in extreme poverty--specifically affecting black communities and pushing dope and s*** to pay the bills--and now is the #1 genre in the world to the point where every other genre and act has in some way shape or form been influenced by it.
you can look at jazz as a parallel but it is nowhere near as accessible
BINGO!!!
it also has a lot to do with the gentrification of the genre. there is no other genre that had its roots in extreme poverty--specifically affecting black communities and pushing dope and s*** to pay the bills--and now is the #1 genre in the world to the point where every other genre and act has in some way shape or form been influenced by it.
you can look at jazz as a parallel but it is nowhere near as accessible
he was a hack whose whole shtick was 'coming out of the shadows' and was explicitly picked up by blogs for his "off kilter" r&b
anyway i wasn't even hating on artists til now my problem was the journos and tastemakers
How was he a hack lmao

Lil B also did his thing on this beat

And how can you blame an artist for his reception by random bozos online