This is true but there’s a flip side to that idea

In my existence immigrants in other countries usually are even more marginalized and the cohesion u talk about becomes poc just pandering to the majority white culture

Atleast in the US u have examples of self sufficient and thriving ethnic nodes that maintain their cultural identity

I can live in atlanta and be a doctor and live in a gated neighborhood with majority black people and go to a black owned resteraunt down the street and just overall raise my kids in that context

Same can be said for hispanics in cali, texas, asians in seattle and so on

morningstaronline.co.uk/article/decolonized-cuba-challenging-racial-and-cultural-discrimination-through-education

Another article def worth reading^

"Across six days, the delegation visited trade unions, schools, a university and community organisations in Havana and Pinar del Rio.

From the first encounter to the last, it was clear that Cuba has taken deliberate steps to ensure that black and ethnic minority perspectives, and those of the Afro-Cuban community, are centrally referenced.

Cultural values, heritages and diversity are placed at the centre of the education experience for every Cuban.

We visited eight schools across Havana and Pinar del Rio, and were met by Cuban school leaders, teachers, and young students dressed immaculately in the white and red, or white and yellow school uniform worn by this age group throughout the country.

At the entrance of every education setting, on notice boards, displays and presentations, were colourful and creative historic accounts of Cuba.

We met government officials, teachers, head teachers, university lecturers and senior trade union officials who proudly identified as Afro-Cuban.

This was a complete reorientation of my expectations of the trip — seeing Afro Cuban knowledge, culture and representation celebrated and accepted within Cuban education as the norm.

The Cuban education system clearly promotes arts, music and dance at all levels and age groups, and we were repeatedly met by a choir demonstrating synchronised rhythms, harmonies and soul.

The artistry, sound and rhythm of Afro-Cuban art was a central theme to our travels, as a welcome, essential socio-cultural experience or as a parting gift, memorably by ballet, samba and chorister performance at the Music School in Pinar del Rio.

Whoever we met, cultural expression of art, spirituality, creativity and movement remained at the centre, acknowledged with pride as Afro-Cuban, but always Cuban.

This included the open duality of Cubans practicing Santeria, and worshipping Orisha, deities of the Yoruba (Nigerian) belief who are known and revered for specific characteristics.

It was hard for all delegates to comprehend the significance of the fact that we were in a nation where a quarter of the diverse population place, at their spiritual centre, African spiritual practices.

As a person of African descent, I believe the transatlantic slave trade is a common recent historical link that binds global communities together.

The legacy of enslavement in Cuba is often referenced in English and Welsh education spaces as a footnote to the history of the Cuban Revolution.

The work of the CDR was reminiscent of the black supplementary schools which was started in Britain in the mid-1960s, by African and African Caribbean communities.

My reasoning and connection with Jorge, a veteran of multiple community campaigns, offered further insight into how the Afro-Cuban experience is seen as not divisible from the Cuban experience.

The most powerful experiences of the delegation for me were when speaking with the Afro-Cuban communities in Pinar del Rio and Havana.

I was constantly offered and gladly reciprocated salutations of Rasta, with intergenerational members of the Afro-Cuban community offering love and respect for our blessed African heritage.

It was engaging in dialogue with “Eddie” that perhaps impacted most on my experiences in Cuba. Eddie shared honest youthful experiences where he and his friends shaved their dreadlocks off to avoid discrimination from employers and frequent challenges by police. He had two jobs, worked long hours and had little time to see his daughters.

We both acknowledged that there are unequal experiences in Cuba, with racism and discrimination a reality for the Afro-Cuban community, despite many legislative advances.

I asked Eddie about life as an Afro-Cuban. He told me clearly “life is hard here.” When I asked why, he answered simply: “El bloquero.”

For Eddie, the ongoing illegal United States commercial, economic and financial embargo against Cuba ensures that material, travel and exchange barriers are in place for every Cuban — without discrimination.

But despite the economic disadvantage faced through “El bloquero,” the true legacy of the revolution remains. Cuba is a nation that offers an educational experience which seeks to support every one of its communities""

@02Shaq @Maartins

yes they do that here too

Don't even need to look at refugees or immigrants. Look how much they treat the Roma like utter dogshit.

True but that's mostly eastern europe

This post is hilarious and so typical of white europeans

Ignore everything, one buzzword about America on the same topic, and ignore everything that was said about the problem in your own country

That white chauvinism runs deep in europe

I mean s***ting on these flawed systems is totally fine by me.

But arent you an european too? What makes you different? Most people I know at this point migrated from somewhere else. Now I know im not engaging with many of your points because I agree with you on lots of stuff Ive seen in the thread.

This question is more out of curiosity but do you consider yourself Dutch and if not why?

It's only mostly in Eastern Europe because proportionally the largest # of Roma groups are in that region. It's pretty much across Europe that they're treated badly equally. Especially places like France or the UK.

Though, Eastern Europe definitely is a little...

I'm not a eurocac because i'm not a c***lol?

And i literally laid out how european identity is rigid and how people from a migrant background don't get accepted to the same extent to Europe than the US due to a different conception of national identity as the result of history

I laid it all out but you'd rather ignore that and just say but America like a typical eurocac

All folks have to do is just read Fanon once and they'd get it

I'll never be seen as Dutch here, why would I call myself or try to be accepted by people who don't give a f*** about people like me and actively harm us even?

F*** that s***.

Lol I was refused to attend this one Christian elementary school because, in the words of the school director, me and my brother were "not of a western background".

Over my dead body that I'm gonna call myself Dutch when we getting treated like this. My ancestors would be rolling in their graves.

Is it normal to say the pledge everyday in schools and stuff where ur from

No thank god it isn't lol

There's a lot less nationalist propaganda in general here, ngl seeing all that shyt irl in america when i came there in 2019 was a trip

first thing my neighbour complained about when ukrainian refugees were coming was the lack of kindergarten spaces for german kids

There's places that said they couldn't accept more Syrian refugees that now suddenly have room left for Ukrainian refugees

Italy's treatment of african refugees especially has been embarassing and of course racist at its core. You had salvini 3 years ago screaming at the boats full of immigrants and complaining about immigrants "stealing our jobs" and now he on tv crying begging for more immigrants cause nobody wants to work anymore😭😭
I been lucky cause im a white immigrant and my dad has been in and out of here for like 20 years so integration was easy but ethnic minorities have it rough here. Since berlusconi became pm italy culturally has been slowly americanized, but at least life here is more sustainable, food is goat and its full of amazing sceneries and places to visit

Id also have a lot to say about schools not teaching italy's imperialist history, i only learned about it, although in a simplified manner, because my teacher was sensitive about this stuff but its common for people not to know that we also were colonizers. Plus italy never facing the consequences for its fascist history, suddenly nobody was fascist after ww2 and we ended it at that, 0 repercussions everyone tried to forget anything ever happened

this is actually very true

this is kinda connected

but i feel like although the extreme racism (violence, harresment) might be worse in the US

every day racism/micro aggressions is so much worse in the UK to the point its unbearable

like at least Americans talk about race, most British people just act like racism is not a thing - It's like being constantly gaslighted

Jesus

Thinly veiled cuban propaganda thread

European countries are way too insecure about their identity to have healthy integration except in more liberal places like the UK where they have a different relationship with communities and personal rights

Idk about other countries but in france the subconscious struggle going on is if immigrants don’t fully assimilate it’s seen as a sign of the Republic failing and it attacks its legitimacy, because the ideals of the revolution couldnt save u from the obscure values of ur religion, which is something that started against christianity to fight the influence of the pro monarchy priests. So integration will never even be an option compared to assimilation.

Not saying it’s the root cause of the problem but it’s the reason why no good solution will be adopted any time soon and the same tired arguments and debates get brought up all the time with no end in sight

Not an endorsement for US, starts endorsing US immediately lol

Look at the difference in these threads

reddit.com/r/europe/comments/v29ybg/uk_aims_to_send_the_first_group_of_asylum_seekers

reddit.com/r/europe/comments/vjmjo9/ukrainians_who_come_to_uk_illegally_could_be_sent

F*** eurocacs