"Dreams can't be buy" - Bruno Fernandes
What has happened?Twelve of Europe's leading football clubs have announced they have agreed to establish a new midweek competition, the European Super League, governed by its 'Founding Clubs'.
Real Madrid, Manchester City and Chelsea will likely be banned from this season's Champions League semi-finals. There is a potential the 12 teams will be removed or have points deducted from their domestic leagues.
Latest developmentsReal Madrid, Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, AC Milan, Arsenal, Chelsea, Inter, Juventus, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and Tottenham are the clubs announced as founding members.
How will the new competition work?Proposals have included a 20-team league, made up of 15 permanent members and five who would qualify annually.
This format would see two groups of 10 clubs, with the top four from each group going through to a knockout phase that would be similar to the current Champions League. Matches would still be midweek and could continue alongside traditional domestic competition. The main advantage for the 15 founders is guaranteed entry – and the revenue that goes with it – each year.
Even with the proposed changes to the Champions League, there remains a possibility teams could fail to qualify. The proposed European Super League would eliminate that risk.
How has football reacted to the Super League plot?Almost universal condemnation from everyone but the clubs involved. Gary Neville, the former Manchester United and England defender, was among those outraged by plans which could cause untold financial damage to smaller clubs - but create billions more for the top clubs.
"I'm a Manchester United fan and I have been for 40 years of my life but I'm absolutely disgusted," he told Sky Sports. "I'm disgusted with Manchester United and Liverpool most. Liverpool, they pretend 'You'll Never Walk Alone', the people's club, the fans' club. Manchester United, 100 years borne out of workers round here, and they're breaking away into a league without competition, that they can't be relegated from? It's an absolute disgrace."
Players condemning the plans:(Current) ESL PlayersMarcus Rashford (Man Utd)
Zlatan Ibrahimovic (AC Milan)
Luke Shaw (Man Utd)
Bruno Fernandes (Man Utd) via Daniel Podence (Wolves)
James Milner (Liverpool)
Joao Cancelo (Man City)
Rafael Leao (Milan)
Konstantinos Tsimikas (Liverpool)
Arnau Pigmal (Man Utd academy player)
Gary Lineker (ex-Barcelona and Tottenham)
Jamie Carragher (ex-Liverpool)
Luis Figo (ex-Barcelona, Madrid & Inter)
Roberto Carlos (ex. Real Madrid and Inter)
Ian Wright (ex-Arsenal)
Rio Ferdinand (ex. Man Utd)
Roy Keane (ex-Man Utd) & Micah Richards (ex-Man City)
Gary Neville (ex. Man Utd)
Lukas Podolski (ex-Arsenal)
Bacary Sagna (Ex-Arsenal and Man City player)
Mesut Ozil (fenerbahce. Ex-Arsenal & Real Madrid player)
Kevin Prince Boateng (ex-Milan)
Dejan Lovren (Zenit. ex-Liverpool)
Ander Herrera (PSG. Ex-Man Utd player)
Luis Alberto (Lazio. Ex- Liverpool player and Barcelona youth) in response to Ander Herrera's story
Luca Toni (ex-Bayern and Juventus)
Danny Murphy (Ex-Liverpool) and Dion Dublin (Ex-Man Utd) on MOTD2
what is the difference between champions league and european league like they have now
what is the difference between champions league and european league like they have now
Europa league?
Like arsenal has been garbage this year and yet under these rules they'd still be qualifying for this cup just cuz they're arsenal
How's this the ucl when 15 teams are guaranteed to be in it no matter what just based off how big they are
right now it 20 teams it could have easily been 40 team comp with 4 group from people all over the place can qualify in
Like arsenal has been garbage this year and yet under these rules they'd still be qualifying for this cup just cuz they're arsenal
this year try almost 10 plus
people who don't know and keep asking questions, literally google, do some research then come here, it's too complex to tell in a single post
what is the difference between champions league and european league like they have now
Different group stage playoffs format
founder club guarantee no relegation
more money ofc
This s***'s gonna be mad dry by the end of the 1st season
imagine thinking this nobody gonna be checking out for ucl anymore
As a yanker I don’t understand but I feel like something probably should change to make the sport more accessible idk
As a yanker I don’t understand but I feel like something probably should change to make the sport more accessible idk
This is really bad, big clubs usually still have to earn the right to be in champions league now they're just handed it.
Also watching a real madrid vs liverpool match up for example is a rare treat that might not happen for years but now it'll be very common and not as exciting just so they can make money
imagine thinking this nobody gonna be checking out for ucl anymore
super league will do numbers but only in the middle east and usa where there's no culture for the game
What’s the point of this when ucl exists
Closed competition and no qualifying process so you don't share the revenues with other clubs.
The last place club in the Super League makes more than the winners of the Champions League.
Football lost today.
rip football
Closed competition and no qualifying process so you don't share the revenues with other clubs.
The last place club in the Super League makes more than the winners of the Champions League.
Football lost today.
whats so bad about that
whats so bad about that
No more potential for any upsets from a smaller club beating a bigger club, even tho the smaller teams rarely win the champions league it's still fun to watch when they do pull an upset vs a major club
Bigger clubs don't even have to be playing well to be in it, they're in off being big alone
whats so bad about that
Well for one, Dinamo Zagreb eliminated Tottenham from the Europa League fair and square and are on pace to be excluded from European competitions altogether in 2021-22 due to their position in the league.
How is that fair that from merit clubs get excluded from competing in the highest european competition despite outperforming those clubs? Goes against the whole principal of European football of qualifying for competitions to compete in.
How do you exclude rich and historic clubs like Celtic, Ajax and Porto from a chance to compete at the highest level.
Well for one, Dinamo Zagreb eliminated Tottenham from the Europa League fair and square and are on pace to be excluded from European competitions altogether in 2021-22 due to their position in the league.
How is that fair that from merit clubs get excluded from competing in the highest european competition despite outperforming those clubs? Goes against the whole principal of European football of qualifying for competitions to compete in.
How do you exclude rich and historic clubs like Celtic, Ajax and Porto from a chance to compete at the highest level.
Exactly !!!!!!! All it’s gonna be is some elitist playground. Killing the traditions and history of football, pathetic from these owners