Look up rocawear and Sean John numbers at the time and Ciroc numbers today.
I get your point but your acting like they were grocery store or merch brands
I know what the numbers were Roc especially was doing 700 million both were huge brands.
Neither were the dominant brands in they fields. Diddy and HOV were never making more then the men they were in competition with.
Kanye is the number 1 most paid off sneakers and leagues above a LeBron that's unheard of for a non athlete.
That's the point and why his is so different. Diddy wanted to make his own Polo but he never made more then Polo despite his numbers.
Kanye jumped over the Jumpman in terms of sneaker history thats insane because it wasn't KD,Kobe or Bron no it was the rapper.
You're being sensitive and tryna argue feelings over facts no one is downplaying them purposely but reality is what it is.
As Jay himself said "men lie,women lie numbers don't". Numbers say something like Yeezy Brand has never been done before.
Its not an attack on them to admit that fact
I can't believe I gotta argue objective facts
Kanye being born
I know what the numbers were Roc especially was doing 700 million both were huge brands.
Neither were the dominant brands in they fields. Diddy and HOV were never making more then the men they were in competition with.
Kanye is the number 1 most paid off sneakers and leagues above a LeBron that's unheard of for a non athlete.
That's the point and why his is so different. Diddy wanted to make his own Polo but he never made more then Polo despite his numbers.
Kanye jumped over the Jumpman in terms of sneaker history thats insane because it wasn't KD,Kobe or Bron no it was the rapper.
You're being sensitive and tryna argue feelings over facts no one is downplaying them purposely but reality is what it is.
As Jay himself said "men lie,women lie numbers don't". Numbers say something like Yeezy Brand has never been done before.
Its not an attack on them to admit that fact
ima need a source on the yeezy sales because all im finding is Jordan selling higher
Pharrell linking with Nigo/starting a skate team
If this never happened:
A lot of style influence from Graduation era wouldn’t exist
No Kick Push
No Bape era Wayne
No Lil B. He popped with The Pack and a lot of the their appeal came from the fact they were considered skater rappers. Their breakout single was about Vans and they had scenes of niggas skating throughout the vid
Curren$y might not have been the same artist. He was inspired by Pharrell, style wise and musically. Spitta hopped on a lot of Neptunes beats during his first mixtape run. Almost did a full tape rapping on all Neptunes tracks
No Tyler the Creator/Odd Future
Pharrell linking with Nigo/starting a skate team
If this never happened:
A lot of style influence from Graduation era wouldn’t exist
No Kick Push
No Bape era Wayne
No Lil B. He popped with The Pack and a lot of the their appeal came from the fact they were considered skater rappers. Their breakout single was about Vans and they had scenes of niggas skating throughout the vid
Curren$y might not have been the same artist. He was inspired by Pharrell, style wise and musically. Spitta hopped on a lot of Neptunes beats during his first mixtape run. Almost did a full tape rapping on all Neptunes tracks
No Tyler the Creator/Odd Future
one of the most underrated post here. Pharrell lowkey linked the east and west globally.
one of the most underrated post here. Pharrell lowkey linked the east and west globally.
Mid/late 00’s Pharrell changed the game forever
Niggas don’t realize that BBC/Ice Cream era led to a chain of events that helped shape generations afterwards
Pharrell linking with Nigo/starting a skate team
If this never happened:
A lot of style influence from Graduation era wouldn’t exist
No Kick Push
No Bape era Wayne
No Lil B. He popped with The Pack and a lot of the their appeal came from the fact they were considered skater rappers. Their breakout single was about Vans and they had scenes of niggas skating throughout the vid
Curren$y might not have been the same artist. He was inspired by Pharrell, style wise and musically. Spitta hopped on a lot of Neptunes beats during his first mixtape run. Almost did a full tape rapping on all Neptunes tracks
No Tyler the Creator/Odd Future
Should of never happened
So you didn't read my post?
Media company
Liquor brand
Fashion brand
All three styles of businnes mentioned were typical of rappers and celebs and none of them near the level of Yeezy or Beats nor as unique.
Beats was the first time we've seen a Hip Hop artist step into the tech field and succeed to the point where the biggest brand on the planet made it their first ever acquisition.
Yeezy Brand similarly is way beyond what was ever expected of a rapper yes their have been popular brands but it's the most googled on the planet,biggest reselling and he makes more of shoes then Jordan and any active basketball player
Yeezy Brand unlike RocaWearor Sean John which were popular Rapper brands is one of the most popular brands on the planet.
Too even try and bring Ciroc,OVO or RocaWear into the convo of Beats and Yeezy says you prolly gotta get ya reading up homie.
Those are big companies for rappers and celebs. YEEZY AND Beats became dominant companies int heir industries period.
Both off only one product at that its unheard of and never been done by Hip Hop artist
People write off YEEZY as a clothing brand but it’s cool they didn’t hit the JiK listening party to see that exclusive architecture documentary
5 properties around the world were shown with housing concepts fully built by the YEEZY architecture team
Yeezy is the future of clothing, footwear, modern housing design, and creative incubation whether anyone here likes it or not and they’ll argue it’s not true but look how much the company has grown in only 5 years
i think raider klvn really was very integral part of the underground movement of 2010s which was felt during of the peak of soundcloud with almost punkish attitude
if sad boys didnt exist then GBC would have never happened (lots of the member are huge lean stans)
If your reading this basically killing off the datpiff mixtape (through some tapes released on datpiff still lots of "tapes' became commercialised)
I feel like MAYA m.i.a was opened the gates to more industrial hip pop but i do know about dalek was doing that sound in mid 00s
This is more of predictions but i see Veteran by Jpegmafia becoming one of founding fathers of post - trap