Drake would wash Rihanna in a hits battle, fit battle, wealth battle, life battle and dance battle so don't even go there

Also Rihanna’s best albums are

Good Girl Gone Bad Reloaded
Loud

Whatever else

Probably would. Why you counting both of their pockets though. 😂 😂

Ok I'm bored now.

Stream Anti on your favorite DSP #Navy4Eva #R9 #WeShipRockyRihanna

I searched debut with number one album and single...

now this is what I found when searching for Taylor

According to Billboard, she’s the first artist in the history of both charts — which have been around since the 1950s — to debut on top of both charts simultaneously in the same week.
Source

Drake and Rihanna hit battle would just be PND vs himself

Because actual talent should always matter. I love ri but come on lets be real 😂

😂 facts PND career messed up. Whole career was writing songs for Drake.

Tbh only fair to compare Taylor to Madonna at this stage.

She’s so far ahead of her contemporaries.

In saying that I like some of Rihanna’s single and she does amazingly well for her lane.

Yeah it’s pretty poppy. But there’s some fun songs on there too like the one w Nicki.

Man Down is incredible

How can we attribute her with the hit making when she's not known to make hits - she performs them.....
I feel like that term should be reserved for people involved in making the song (melodies, lyrics, instrumental/beat etc.)
I get what you mean though

I agree with your post.

But how much of her success is due to the writing vs the hook and her image.

I’d honestly wager if Rihanna had released Party and Bullshit not Rita it would be a #1 hit.

Fits her image of a rockstar and is catchy enough.

Plus when we’re doing this colloquially it’s easier to attribute the end result to Rihanna. I 100% agree she isn’t a talented musician but the end results speak for themselves.

In what way is Taylor far ahead of her contemporaries? Also name the contemporaries in question please

That's a battle you not gonna win man. Taylor fans are insufferable. Just let it be man. You're gonna drain your energy on that s***.

In most tbh

Career arc- started as a 16 year old and And is still the biggest pop star at almost twice the age. As a female aging into womanhood and shedding the child image without going the Miley/Britney route is amazing.

Genre versatility- Country, Pop, EDM, folk. Woman does it all (which varying results to be fair but she isn’t afraid of changing it up)

Sales - next

Critical acclaim, obviously this isn’t everything and can be taken with a grain of salt but her works are usually well received and show she has a strong QA

And her best attribute is that she’s the most talented female songwriter since Kate Bush.

I'm confused- if she's such hit maker why isn't she currently putting out music like it's nothing especially considering that she makes more enough than money with her other business endeavors...would be just another easy bag, no ?

Why you so mad lmao

Or the love of art

If this re Rihanna I genuinely don’t know.

Maybe lack of motivation to give up 2 years for the inevitable album promo run and tour.

Maybe no music she records is catchy enough, she’s also got the image to the general public of successful artist so flopping would leave her Gaga status after ARTPOP (I suspect this is the main one).

Thirdly building suspense and allure for the return single?

Honestly though I don’t care for Rihanna at all so not the best person to ask

Adele has her beat in all of these and it's not even close. And the way her next album is shaping up... Oh man

Because papi's angels are insufferable

Don’t think you can call any puppet that hasn’t written a single one of their songs “timeless”.

Adele hasn’t sold more than Taylor nor does she branch into other genres or is close to as talented writer.

I will admit with her new album she’ll outsell Taylor lmao.