didn't say they were the absolute earliest, but you can't argue that the first half of 1966 wasn't pretty early for psychedelia to be released. Rain came out only 2 months after Eight Miles High.

i don't find any Dylan psychedelic at all btw

The Yardbirds in 1965 on top of the pops or whatever to boot

yeah I was gonna say they're the earliest of absolute undeniable bonafide psych that I can think of rn at least

Visions Of Johanna is subtly psychedelic

@Aruji Man, I tried giving that SB the Moor album again last night, but I can't get over his annoying f***ing inflection (a less engaging Danny Brown) and some of the song choices are just obnoxious. It's musically genius at times but it's such a hit or miss album. "Call of the Wild" f***ing slaps though

Yeah there was some freaky folk or whatever before this but no concrete psychedelic rock

maybe only because of the slight period flavor of the time and you could argue that any lyrics in that style could be kinda psychedelic

Would psychedelic rock have happened without Mr Tambourine Man etc? Doubt

The one thing that The Beatles did legit invent was automatic double tracking, where a recording has a delayed version of itself automatically layered underneath it without having to re-record a harmony vocal

John loved using it on his vocals to get that loud echoey effect, and The Carpenters would get some amazing use out of it, that one was legit invented in the Revolver sessions. Still tho, stuff like bringing Revolution 9 to a pop audience is insane even if musique concrète had already existed for a while, no pop artist would do that today.

I think in some cases, the exposure level of a musical idea differed so strongly between before and after The Beatles put it on one of their records that you can consider it a kind of innovation, but at the same time you don't want to disrespect the artists who actually came up with the stuff in the first place

yeah for sure you think all those young people and hippies would have tripped balls on acid but not made anything trippy? speaking of Yardbirds they would definitely happen without Mr Tambourine Man tbh

sorry, them too

Desolation Row can be considered proto-psychedelic tbh.

13th Floor Elevators in the very first handful as well

Floyd were a little late, Revolver and Strawberry Fields were out before their first singles

Floyd were touring before. Beatles recorded Sgt. Pepper while Floyd were recording their debut nearby

Yeah didn't Floyd poach any studio time and engineers that the Beatles weren't using? And pretty things were third in line

I think the scene would have been at least half as potent without Dylan's existence. if it even happened at all.

Floyd were psychedelic live in 1966 for sure, but not sure how psychedelic they were in the early parts of the year when Beatles released Rain and recorded some of Revolver

i’m literally suffocating from all this dust itt

Speaking of Dylan did you see this request @Aruji

Suffocate on these nutz then b****

true, but Floyd went way further pretty quickly.

yup, I'll respond to that in that other thread. I'm actually at work atm. I would have to relisten to some songs.

Obligatory Brian

That trippy intro to California Girls was the first thing he composed on acid and it came out in the summer of '65

By Good Vibrations in late '66 they hit the zenith

No rush

lyrically yes, but musically I'm not seeing it that much tbh. yes still influence of course from Dylan's direction when he changed to rock, and influenced all folk-leaning psych acts via the folk aspect, but feel like the psychedelic approach to instrumentation and production, 2 main parts, were markedly different than Dylan's still earthy bluesy/folky/whatever style

bands would have starting freaking out on guitar and making spooky sounds in the studio while tripping without Dylan i feel.

yeah maybe the general creativity, inspiration and some industry stuff(?) in the scene would have been different without Dylan and rock as a whole would just look different, but psych would still happen imo