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  • Dec 21, 2021
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    Koala

    "not 10/10"

    To the album that raised the bar to what a 10 could be and arguably hasn't been topped

  • Dec 21, 2021
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    Elric

    To the album that raised the bar to what a 10 could be and arguably hasn't been topped

    Yea im right with ya on that for a band like The Stooges to take rock n roll that far is something amazing. Like a maelstrom fire, improvised riffs, a saxophone and Iggy drinking gasoline

  • Dec 21, 2021
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    Elric

    We will fall is clear filler and not in the same universe as anything off fun house

    I shouldn't have to say this

    10 minute filler, which is hypnotic dark and soothing af.

  • Dec 21, 2021
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    Aruji

    10 minute filler, which is hypnotic dark and soothing af.

    I don't disagree but do you really think there is any sort of epic intent behind it? You can basically feel Iggy rolling his eyes at having to do this hippie bullshit

    could be completely wrong

  • Dec 21, 2021
    Koala

    Yea im right with ya on that for a band like The Stooges to take rock n roll that far is something amazing. Like a maelstrom fire, improvised riffs, a saxophone and Iggy drinking gasoline

    Worth mentioning that Iggy's parents were both teachers and he was way more literate than he let on but yes they took it as far as you can go

  • Dec 21, 2021

    @fuk_an_ad_lib did you get to the part of Lester's book yet where he tries to get Lou Reed to talk s*** on Bowie and Lou is like "man has come out with some amazing songs but that Iggy Pop however is a brain-dead dipshit" I thought they were pals

  • Dec 21, 2021
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    Elric

    youre really not gonna like it :kendricklaff:

    obv Sister Ray gets a spot but this list usually no more than cd length so it had to go

    @HeyFella I know you're not quick to track down the deep cuts but have you heard the ones I have on here like Lisa Says and Stephanie Says and those three bonus tracks on Loaded?

  • Dec 21, 2021
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    Bowie mix of raw power should be burned. F*** that s***

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    Dec 21, 2021
    Koala

    "not 10/10"

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    Funny we’re talking about VU considering a channel I watch just uploaded a ranking of their discography.

    The balls of the one dude putting Squeeze over White Light lol. He explains pretty well why I don’t connect with it but even I wouldn’t rank it like that. I much prefer VU’s more moody somber music compared to their noisier stuff. The older I get the less patience I have for aimless experimentation. I want something refined, focused, and affecting. That’s why I like Doug Yule’s contributions. He sort of reels things in without removing their subversiveness.

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    Dec 21, 2021
    Bourbon Ben

    Bowie mix of raw power should be burned. F*** that s***

    it’s not great but it gives it a whole different vibe which is interesting

  • Dec 21, 2021
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    Elric

    @HeyFella I know you're not quick to track down the deep cuts but have you heard the ones I have on here like Lisa Says and Stephanie Says and those three bonus tracks on Loaded?

    Yeah we seem to have the same favorites

  • Dec 21, 2021
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    rvi

    nope, the lead guitar (solos) is so much louder than everything else that it devastates you in the Bowie mix in a good way. Iggy later mix tries to devastate you with pure loudness which only dilutes the effect overall after I already became super familiar with the album. also give me the earlier s***tier Iggy og rough mix over the '97 Iggy mix tbqh

    ik i said it before but also don't like a few artistic decisions made for Iggy's later mix which undermine the mysteriousness of Gimme Danger and Penetration (quieter acoustic guitar and celeste coming in way earlier and louder, respectively)

    might seem like a weird statement but although its one of the most powerful rock albums I don't think pure volume/loudness encapsulates its power, its not grindcore or something. still has a ton of subtler twisted mystery that is essential.

    @Elric you ever (re-)digest the Bowie mix of Raw Power I sent you a while ago on here?

    will give it another listen but doubt i'll change my mind.
    most glorified 8/10 mix in history

  • Dec 21, 2021
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    sad song

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    Dec 21, 2021
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    Fella

    Funny we’re talking about VU considering a channel I watch just uploaded a ranking of their discography.

    !https://youtu.be/A1ejSHsFKno

    The balls of the one dude putting Squeeze over White Light lol. He explains pretty well why I don’t connect with it but even I wouldn’t rank it like that. I much prefer VU’s more moody somber music compared to their noisier stuff. The older I get the less patience I have for aimless experimentation. I want something refined, focused, and affecting. That’s why I like Doug Yule’s contributions. He sort of reels things in without removing their subversiveness.

    how is the experimentation "aimless" though

  • Dec 21, 2021
    internet buddy

    Ur in NY, why haven’t u seen it?

    going to see it with the family

  • Dec 21, 2021
    rvi

    how is the experimentation "aimless" though

    I didn’t mean in their case, just generally.

  • Dec 21, 2021
    Fella

    Yeah we seem to have the same favorites

  • rvi 🐦‍⬛
    Dec 21, 2021
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    Atlienz

    will give it another listen but doubt i'll change my mind.
    most glorified 8/10 mix in history

    i mean im perfectly accepting of that the fact that the Bowie mix is also terrible. every mix of the album is terrible

  • Dec 21, 2021
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    rvi

    i mean im perfectly accepting of that the fact that the Bowie mix is also terrible. every mix of the album is terrible

    People complaining about the mix when really they got the most menacing sounding acoustic guitars of all time on there. Gimme Danger sounds fine.

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    Dec 21, 2021
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    Elric

    People complaining about the mix when really they got the most menacing sounding acoustic guitars of all time on there. Gimme Danger sounds fine.

    and some of the most menacing and unhinged electrics up to the point too

  • Dec 21, 2021
    rvi

    and some of the most menacing and unhinged electrics up to the point too

    SF Sorrow actually had some spooky acoustics too

  • Dec 21, 2021
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    lucid

    both white light and vu are better than the first album but that’s not saying much

    WLWH has The Gift and VU has Murder Mystery so no

  • Dec 21, 2021
    Very Based

    sad song

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKyNkjRumqY

    Berlin is insane

  • Dec 21, 2021
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    internet buddy

    WLWH has The Gift and VU has Murder Mystery so no

    Listened to Murder Mystery at 7 o'clock this morning