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  • May 28, 2022
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    Galaxy de list mon

    why

    It’s just a betrayal of the material it’s supposed to be following up. I don’t want to get too political but it takes an angry Anarcho Communists work and makes it palatable for milquetoast liberals, which makes sense since David Lindelof is involved. It already feels “dated” in that it is very much a product of the Trump era. The social commentary in Watchmen the graphic novel has critiques that are so much more broad and universal despite being so of the 80’s on the surface. The show is also just flatly shot and stylistically bland. The opening sequence of the 2009 film alone has infinitely more cinematic value than anything in the show. My gripes are pretty specific so maybe you’ll like it despite them.

  • May 28, 2022
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    Fella

    It’s just a betrayal of the material it’s supposed to be following up. I don’t want to get too political but it takes an angry Anarcho Communists work and makes it palatable for milquetoast liberals, which makes sense since David Lindelof is involved. It already feels “dated” in that it is very much a product of the Trump era. The social commentary in Watchmen the graphic novel has critiques that are so much more broad and universal despite being so of the 80’s on the surface. The show is also just flatly shot and stylistically bland. The opening sequence of the 2009 film alone has infinitely more cinematic value than anything in the show. My gripes are pretty specific so maybe you’ll like it despite them.

    ok. might start Band of Brothers or Chernobyl then. Another night, though. Gettin sleepy

    Still keeping Watchmen on deck though

  • May 28, 2022
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    Galaxy de list mon

    why

    It’s a great miniseries that doesn’t completely understand the novel and makes a large amount of assumptions based on the source material like equating the threat of racism to nuclear war.

  • May 28, 2022
    Galaxy de list mon

    ok. might start Band of Brothers or Chernobyl then. Another night, though. Gettin sleepy

    Still keeping Watchmen on deck though

    Chernobyl is essential

  • May 28, 2022
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    internet buddy

    It’s a great miniseries that doesn’t completely understand the novel and makes a large amount of assumptions based on the source material like equating the threat of racism to nuclear war.

    It’s deeper than that. Alan Moore would view both as a consequence of the system. Racism isn’t a focus of the book because it’s a natural feature of the world he’s portraying rather than a separate evil impulse that festers in people’s hearts. He doesn’t think you can correct it under that system, Lindelof does. Just the one panel of Dr. Manhattan stomping over Vietnamese people as a god working for the American empire says so much more about racism than whatever they thought they were doing with Hooded Justice in the show.

  • May 28, 2022
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    Galaxy de list mon

    gonna start the Watchmen TV series tonight and watch Space Odyssey tomorrow night hopefully

    get the book if you haven't. very worth it

  • May 28, 2022
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    Fella

    Skip that show, it stinks.

    I couldn't even get 10 minutes in

  • May 28, 2022
  • Very Based

    get the book if you haven't. very worth it

  • May 28, 2022
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    Elric

    I couldn't even get 10 minutes in

    damn even you. I was waiting for your take since you guys often disagree.

  • May 28, 2022
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    sounds like the consensus is. book = very good / show = very bad

  • May 28, 2022
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    Galaxy de list mon

    damn even you. I was waiting for your take since you guys often disagree.

    The Watchmen might be the best thing I've ever read in any format of words on paper so this s*** is blasphemous to me

  • May 28, 2022
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    I don't like comics but that book is great. I also like "Maus"

  • May 28, 2022
    Very Based

    I don't like comics but that book is great. I also like "Maus"

    That was a little too challenging for me but I felt accomplished after finishing From Hell while cross referencing the appendix in the back the entire time 🧐 no way in f*** I'd have a clue what was going on otherwise s***s cryptic

  • May 28, 2022
    Fella

    It’s deeper than that. Alan Moore would view both as a consequence of the system. Racism isn’t a focus of the book because it’s a natural feature of the world he’s portraying rather than a separate evil impulse that festers in people’s hearts. He doesn’t think you can correct it under that system, Lindelof does. Just the one panel of Dr. Manhattan stomping over Vietnamese people as a god working for the American empire says so much more about racism than whatever they thought they were doing with Hooded Justice in the show.

    It’s also just f***ing boring. There was a great show in there where Tim Nelson infiltrates a supremacist group but instead a bunch of white liberals did their s***tiest Atlanta the show impression.

  • May 28, 2022
    Galaxy de list mon

    sounds like the consensus is. book = very good / show = very bad

    There’s a lot of people who love it so what do I know.

  • May 28, 2022
    Elric

    The Watchmen might be the best thing I've ever read in any format of words on paper so this s*** is blasphemous to me

    I did enjoy Doomsday Clock though as a follow up in the comics. I think as a piece of meta commentary on the broader DC universe and comic history it was really interesting. Plus Gary Frank’s art is gorgeous.

  • May 28, 2022
    Very Based

    I don't like comics but that book is great. I also like "Maus"

    Every Batman graphic novel from the ‘80s is required reading

  • May 28, 2022

    Batman: Year One might be my favorite depiction of Catwoman in print

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    Outer Range first ep in for some weird cowboy s***

  • May 28, 2022
    Elric

    new Arcade Fire, MIA, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Jack White, Thom/Greenwood, Pusha

    all my favourites from 2 decades ago dropping decent to great stuff still. Just missing MGMT and Franz.

    Spoon, Beach House, Destroyer and Spiritualized with good stuff as well. Time is a flat circle

  • May 28, 2022
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    Elric

    i been to that amazing

    I booked it like 3 years ago but kept getting pushed back cause of covid. Lineup is great so I'm very excited

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    May 28, 2022
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    Fella

    It’s just a betrayal of the material it’s supposed to be following up. I don’t want to get too political but it takes an angry Anarcho Communists work and makes it palatable for milquetoast liberals, which makes sense since David Lindelof is involved. It already feels “dated” in that it is very much a product of the Trump era. The social commentary in Watchmen the graphic novel has critiques that are so much more broad and universal despite being so of the 80’s on the surface. The show is also just flatly shot and stylistically bland. The opening sequence of the 2009 film alone has infinitely more cinematic value than anything in the show. My gripes are pretty specific so maybe you’ll like it despite them.

    Damen Lindelof has made more classics than your favorites tho lmao no need to fire shots at him