So f***in good i Love and hate billy

Only toward the end when it gets going

Damn. Always loved that one. I can easily see that being an Oasis song.

Yeah I know I'm in the minority, it just never hit

more like halfway through when it gets going

their opus for me

sounds like an outtake from their first album

Honestly I’d extend what I consider Britpop to 2001 with Pulp’s last album. I’d extend it earlier into 1987 with Happy Monday’s first record but I think that’s apart of a different scene and if I did that I’d have to include The Smith’s last album which I think is too far.

Implying Strangeways and Bummed are from the same scene? :elon: are you mean the actual first Monday's album which is super iffy?

That’s not what I meant. I just meant I can’t consider The Smiths britpop even if they’re very clearly an influence on it. Happy Mondays being in its own scene was irrelevant to that. Like pushing the year back to 87 would just open the conversation up for The Smiths being included.

everything before stone roses first album is pushing it. that and the la's really kicked s*** off

yeah '87 too far. i do not like that Mondays debut album but this '86 single is awesome

Yeah pretty much what I think too. I like the idea of Coldplay’s Parachutes killing it for good. People always end it at 1997 with OK Computer, but there were still albums that fit into that scene coming out after that. 2000/2001 really was the end in my opinion.

your must not have heard that this is where it all started

was really talking about the groundwork. but yes, that song really was the official start, along with your boys

@twinkletoez

Tonight Tonight at 47:00

Might be my favorite Pumpkins show. Everlasting Gaze at the start shreds so hard.

jk i hate Popscene but will gladly give it to Drowners

The Magician one of my favorites. Also unfortunately one of the very few that carries on the the tone of Seventh Seal.

Yeah it was interesting. I kinda like to think that Max von Sydow’s character is a reincarnation of his character from Seventh Seal. Like he’s destined to keep moving with a group of performers.

That's what I thought when I first watched those but then Bergman decided to spend most of the rest of his career focused on women, psychology and the soul. Could've used a few more crazy crusade/olde spooky europe bangers.

Oh that’s a bummer. I was hoping he’d have some huge existential odyssey left in him like Mirror, 2001, and Tree Of Life.

Well there's Persona which you already know Fanny and Alexander is its own type of familial odyssey that is probably the closest you'll get. I'd recommend checking that out this Christmas. He wanted to get Max but it didn't work out can't remember why. Gunnar was succumbing to Alzheimer's or something and could only handle some very simple lines

Oh yeah

"The part of Bishop Edvard Vergérus was written by Ingmar Bergman with Max von Sydow in mind. When the screenplay was completed, von Sydow was contacted about playing the role, which would have been his first in a Bergman film since The Touch (1971). Von Sydow was willing and, in fact, very excited about playing the role. However, Bergman was not aware of this, since von Sydow was in Los Angeles at the time, and could only be reached through his agent who, acting in what he perceived as von Sydow's interest, told Bergman and his producers that von Sydow would only play the role if he could have a percentage of the film's profits, in addition to his salary. The producers, already stretched to their financial limits, of course balked, and told the agent that, sadly, there could be no such compromise, and began looking for other actors to play the pivotal part. By the time von Sydow had learned why his beloved role had been taken from him, Jan Malmsjö had already been cast as the Bishop, and von Sydow lost his chance to star in what would later be known to be Bergman's "last film" (although he would play key roles in The Best Intentions (1992) and Private Confessions (1996), both written by Bergman). Von Sydow was furious about the incident, and, by certain accounts, still harboured a bitter grudge about for the remainder of his life"

every agent i know knows i hate agents

Listened to Dark Fantasy - Jesus is King today with all the classic guest verses and man was that alot of memories and nostalgia and literal infinite quotables

he f***ing smoked Kendrick on that