Laced

1mo

U said he copied TSOA on flow. Push didn't use that flow. Yes both beats have pianos but that's hardly unique. The entirety of Morale has pianos

2words

1mo

If really is sad that your response to similarities is to mention random things that aren’t the same

Like no s*** dog, not everything in the songs are identical

That’s like if you say “this car is sky blue” and I say “no it’s not the sky actually has clouds”. Like do you not understand how dumb you sound? Pathetic

Laced

1mo

And that's exactly why u shouldn't make the general, zoomed out statements that u did and get mad when someone points out the faults in them

2words

1mo

I didn’t say it did. But I feel like sometimes if I say something like “Kendrick pulled some influence from Adidon for MTG”, k bots get defensive and deny it hard. Because they feel like acknowledging an influence or pattern would take away from him, so they deny and say his s*** is fully unique and original

2words

1mo

Using the fact that Kendrick yells on the last verse of basically every song he’s ever made to take away from any flow similarities within the meat of the track is disingenuous and stupid

And the content similarities are obvious so I don’t see how we’re having this conversation

Spooky pianos
Hiding a child
Lines where Kendrick cadence matches push

This shouldn’t be this controversial with yall. So you think the songs are unrelated? Truly? In a world without Adidon, we get Meet the Grahams? Like really? Stand on it. I’m dying laughing typing this because we all know it’s a ludicrous thought

2words

1mo

Now you just sound ridiculous

Story of OJ beat worked on multiple levels. There was the topical relevance but push also was able to use it as a great boogie man soundtrack and I don’t think that was lost on anyone in real time. He really recontextualized that beat on some evil s*** and yall know it. And I don’t think yall would deny that if you weren’t put in a position where you feel like acknowledging it would take away from Kendrick. It really does upset me when yall are this obtuse

2words

1mo

I didn’t say it did. But I feel like sometimes if I say something like “Kendrick pulled some influence from Adidon for MTG”, k bots get defensive and deny it hard. Because they feel like acknowledging an influence or pattern would take away from him, so they deny and say his s*** is fully unique and original

YoungNastyShawty

1mo

This beef really did irreversible damage to online hip hop discourse but this really was one of the best days in hip hop history

coldfire

1mo

He called him short

Albert Grindstein

1mo

The day hip hop was ruined ngl

HaroldsChicken

1mo

White women to help with self esteem . His disses to Kendrick were oddly weakest part of song . Besides actual video . Rocky diss of ha I f***ed Rihanna first also weak

Corporate Mór

1mo

Drake not being able to drop a Nice for What level hit with beef sprinkled throughout was his downfall

Guess he didn’t expect Kendrick to do it instead

HaroldsChicken

1mo

That man was coked out and didn’t have the people around him ( including writers ) that were there for meek beef era

HBDUSA

1mo

This like saying S8 of GoT ruined the show nah yall did not see the signs and how everything had changed until this moment

Corporate Mór

1mo

I fear the only similarity is their subject which is a contagion & hard to separate

2words

1mo

That’s a lie and you know it. That mash up wouldn’t exist if that were true

notbrock

1mo

The influence is the shocking info/tea aspect

But that’s all diss tracks since TSOA. That s*** shifted what people expect from disses

Corporate Mór

1mo

It was really hard to find and I was surprised to find only one

2words

1mo

The influence on meet the grahams goes beyond that. It’s blatant. If you want to deny that it just feels like you have some other motive to downplay it

If Adidon changed disses forever and influenced every diss after that’s fair game. But no diss was influenced by it more than Meet the Grahams. It is a blatant, clear, direct descendant. And there’s nothing wrong with that other than the inauthenticity, and that’s what you are attempting to run from.

Corporate Mór

1mo

You’re basically asking would MTG exist in its current form if TSOA didn’t? I’d say no tbf

2words

1mo

Now find one with not like us and Adidon