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  • Jul 20, 2021
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    tbh i haven't really done more than skim the virgil stuff but i feel like people have been calling OW and virgil himself played out for a few years now. maybe getting the bag on the crest of a wave or at least close enough isn't the most terrible idea.

    LMVH will always have more institutional power in that relationship but in the short to medium term it's a symbiotic one and one can only benefit from the other doing well. virgil diversifies his own portfolio with them and they capitalise on a streetwear wave that has some life in it yet. i totally get the points about ownership but tbh i think virgil having already moved through pyrex onto off white probably is less concerned about the 'off white' name than people might think

  • Jul 20, 2021
    CurlyZ

    I’m old af, but I just found out today about the “soft boy aesthetic” in fashion and honestly I’m ready to start beating all y’all asses for having no pride foreal.

    When I first join KTT fashion we was dressed in all-black with ski masks, chains, and carrying knifes in our pockets for protection, and now y’all “SOFT BOYS”???? Nah, naaaaaahhhhh

    stealing this as copypasta tho

  • Jul 21, 2021
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    class wario

    tbh i haven't really done more than skim the virgil stuff but i feel like people have been calling OW and virgil himself played out for a few years now. maybe getting the bag on the crest of a wave or at least close enough isn't the most terrible idea.

    LMVH will always have more institutional power in that relationship but in the short to medium term it's a symbiotic one and one can only benefit from the other doing well. virgil diversifies his own portfolio with them and they capitalise on a streetwear wave that has some life in it yet. i totally get the points about ownership but tbh i think virgil having already moved through pyrex onto off white probably is less concerned about the 'off white' name than people might think

    I think it's easy to "over a***yze"/rationalize, let's directly hit it: if Virgil's play from the jump was to get a bag, collect his over dues as a pioneer, by all means do you. Run it up, secure all the collabs, sign every deal it's fine. We all know those types.

    He continues to screw up when he tries to position himself as a Black leader/voice. It's one thing when you feel outside pressure as a public facing Black figure, it's another when you're peddling lazy "I support black business," merch, branding African kentes with LV, incorporating Angela Davis, James Baldwin messaging into your productions etc., stealing from Black creatives etc.

    Straight up Virgil's doing the opposite of opening doors. Once the white man catches up to his gimmick/moves on, it's gonna be 2x harder for a say Grace Wales Bonner type to get those keys down the line. That's where the frustration stems from imo. At least personally.

    It's bigger than who's helping who, for someone who's gone out of his way to align himself with the ongoing discussions of diversity and equality within a professional sector. ESPECIALLY when said sector's gone through a recent "Black wash" from an aesthetic POV... long story short, he's not the chosen one lol. Sickening to see him "praised"/""rewarded" as such fr.

  • Jul 21, 2021
    CurlyZ

    I’m old af, but I just found out today about the “soft boy aesthetic” in fashion and honestly I’m ready to start beating all y’all asses for having no pride foreal.

    When I first join KTT fashion we was dressed in all-black with ski masks, chains, and carrying knifes in our pockets for protection, and now y’all “SOFT BOYS”???? Nah, naaaaaahhhhh

    Wtf is that

  • Jul 21, 2021
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    What are the most efficient ways to step my game up? I got clothes but ion got fits (yet)

  • Jul 21, 2021
    Bestowed

    What are the most efficient ways to step my game up? I got clothes but ion got fits (yet)

    Who do you think has great style? save pics, set up a moodboard: "take from "x's style," take from "y's" style etc. Experiment and find the winning formula for you. Key is "for you."

    Just gotta be honest with what silhouettes make you look good. What brands make you feel good. And budget accordingly.

    If by "efficient" you're referring to $$ I'd recommend stocking up on solid blanks (Uniqlo, wang, acne, etc), and build around a designer "statement" piece (sweater, jacket etc). That way you're not dropping $$ just to reset in 2 months ya dig?

  • Jul 21, 2021
    Bestowed

    What are the most efficient ways to step my game up? I got clothes but ion got fits (yet)

    understanding silhouette and how you can put clothes together and have em make sense on your body goes a long way, an oversized shirt for example can look perfect or like absolute s*** depending on the fit of the rest of your clothes

  • Jul 21, 2021
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    hoodbya1r

    I think it's easy to "over a***yze"/rationalize, let's directly hit it: if Virgil's play from the jump was to get a bag, collect his over dues as a pioneer, by all means do you. Run it up, secure all the collabs, sign every deal it's fine. We all know those types.

    He continues to screw up when he tries to position himself as a Black leader/voice. It's one thing when you feel outside pressure as a public facing Black figure, it's another when you're peddling lazy "I support black business," merch, branding African kentes with LV, incorporating Angela Davis, James Baldwin messaging into your productions etc., stealing from Black creatives etc.

    Straight up Virgil's doing the opposite of opening doors. Once the white man catches up to his gimmick/moves on, it's gonna be 2x harder for a say Grace Wales Bonner type to get those keys down the line. That's where the frustration stems from imo. At least personally.

    It's bigger than who's helping who, for someone who's gone out of his way to align himself with the ongoing discussions of diversity and equality within a professional sector. ESPECIALLY when said sector's gone through a recent "Black wash" from an aesthetic POV... long story short, he's not the chosen one lol. Sickening to see him "praised"/""rewarded" as such fr.

    Yeah I hear you, all very fair points. There is definitely something jarring between that presentation of him as such and as you say the cashing in to get a bag in the here and now. Maybe it plays out better overall than we're all assuming though.

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    Jul 21, 2021
    Cody

    https://sneakernews.com/2021/07/20/vans-old-skool-slip-on-korea-pack/
    @proper we ok with this or nah

    too much s*** goin on for me

    slip ons might have been ok if it didn’t say “BAN SU” on the tongue

  • Jul 21, 2021
    class wario

    Yeah I hear you, all very fair points. There is definitely something jarring between that presentation of him as such and as you say the cashing in to get a bag in the here and now. Maybe it plays out better overall than we're all assuming though.

    God willing

  • Anyone know where to get similar chains like Kanye's on instagram posts?

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    Jul 21, 2021
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    The same dudes who was dressin like professional hikers dressing like professional fishermen now

  • Jul 22, 2021
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    What apps/sites do y’all use to buy clothes? I’m tryna step my fits up

  • Jul 22, 2021
    texasbrisket

    What apps/sites do y’all use to buy clothes? I’m tryna step my fits up

    check this for retailers - reddit.com/r/malefashion/comments/km7tqc/good_basic_brands_besides_uniqlo_and_etc/ghd6prg

    for secondhand grailed, depop, yahoo japan, and just searching an item and looking at googles shopping tab can get some good finds

  • Jul 22, 2021
    proper

    The same dudes who was dressin like professional hikers dressing like professional fishermen now

    glad i wasnt the only one who peeped that

  • Jul 22, 2021
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    Can yall put me on with some new brands I should be looking for?

    Everything I used to really like and want one day has become mad mainstream and even harder to come by.

  • Jul 22, 2021
    cotton

    Can yall put me on with some new brands I should be looking for?

    Everything I used to really like and want one day has become mad mainstream and even harder to come by.

    what kinda aesthetic do you want

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    Jul 22, 2021
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    Jul 22, 2021
    cotton

    Can yall put me on with some new brands I should be looking for?

    Everything I used to really like and want one day has become mad mainstream and even harder to come by.

    Jnco

  • Jul 23, 2021

    f*** it gonna cop some visvims always wanted a pair now I can afford em

  • Jul 23, 2021
    proper
    https://twitter.com/dirtbagnolita/status/1418215990710571010

    wesleyan down the street from me lol

  • Jul 24, 2021
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    alpinestars motocross s*** atv offroad fury 2 vibes

  • Jul 24, 2021
    Art

    alpinestars motocross s*** atv offroad fury 2 vibes

    If you didn’t have a Thor jersey and a no fear hat i middle school don’t talk to me