seriously tho genuinely embarrassing night

both were a f***ing joke

Nah not really. First debate she killed it but once the crosshairs were on her she kept folding and didn’t come off very genuine. I think she’ll easily beat Pence but no one cares about the VP debates to be honest

tbf while trump is wrong in his framing, there is validity to what he says about mail-in votes - not just for the presidency, but for congressional seats. There is a massive disaster in NYC for example because of mail-in votes, so much so that there are multiple outstanding lawsuits regarding primary counts. Trump did kind of mention this but much like everything, he was uneducated on the actual matter so he misframed it.
Progressive candidates like Suraj Patel were f***ed by arbitrary mail-in regulations, refusals to count ballots, and various other issues. However, the issue was NOT necessarily mail fraud, the issue was margins, voting access, and amount of time it took to count ballots.

You never heard or seen Pence talk or debate, have you? Harris is not going to have it easy with him.

Dudes boring as hell

trump really assembling a crew of poll watchers and calling em Army for Trump, s***s going down on november 3

trump only ran train because biden has no spine

trumps debate tactics are beyond childish and if biden had any balls he would make trump look as pathetic as he is

on top of that biden honestly had a better performance than trump

but that is literally saying nothing lmao

Crazy af. Hard to wrap my mind around the fact that so many people just accept this.

Even if this debate is seen as a draw, that's horrible news for Trump.

He's massively behind in the polls right now. He desperately needed a spark.

Trump's campaign out here looking like the 2019 Pats offense tbh

Let me see what Fox News Saying

polls dont matter when you have the resources trump does. i haaaate the doomer mentality but nothing these past 4 years has pointed towards trump ever playing fair.

trump doesn't need to campaign to win, he just needs to campaign to make americans question the legitimacy of this election. and once people do he has a lot of leeway

I can say it because Bernie was the leading candidate until Biden entered the race. Why in the hell would this dude enter the race? Imo, it was completely out of nowhere. They picked someone who has a historical name with the party (Biden, Clinton, etc).

Biden has no real plan for any of those things. He’s a puppet for the dem establishment. It’s basically Obama 1.5, without the charisma of Obama.

I truly believe both are terrible options, but Biden has been in government for almost half of his life and has had little positive impact...why put hope in him?

he was leading over biden until essentially every other candidate dropped out and endorsed him within 48 hours

i hate how hopeless i feel about all this but like cmon

Biden trying to win muslim votes is so cringe.

Horrible news for Biden too though. He needed to get rid of the basement joe narrative and couldn’t do it. If you thought he was senile before, this debate wouldn’t change your mind.

If a question on race is brought up (which, it’s 2020..and it most certainly will), they will make sure to attack her on her record (rightfully so), and she will not know how to respond.

Pence, debate-wise, is very level headed. He isn’t nearly as animated as Trump, which will be his Achilles heel.

I don't disagree with you that Trump will use every avenue he can to twist things in his favor.

But the only way I think him making people question the legitimacy will work is if either a) it gets people that would have voted Biden stay home because they think their vote doesn't matter or b) it's like within 1 or maybe 2% in a swing state and Trump has the lead with mail in ballots left to be counted

Biden saying now he’s gonna bring change forget about all those years as a career politician, this time he’s for real

💀💀💀💀💀

...you do realize she would be debating against Mike Pence though in this hypothetical debate question on race though right?

You're acting like Pence is a far left candidate who doesn't have a way worse record than her on race lmao. Kamala will look moderate in comparison to him if race is brought up.

Inshallah

soulja standing up and taking off his jacket