"Communication is, after all, not what language is, but (a part of) what it does. Countless problems have arisen from a failure to distinguish between language and the use of language. Before language can be used communicatively, it has to establish what there is to communicate about."

Are attempts of "virtue" stagnating.

Probably.

I guess it would go. "Virtue" is something that stagnates the individual at the benefit of the whole. But I feel as if at times to benefit the whole stagnates the quality of the individual.

So is it worth it? Is it better to be completely self serving? Does that lead to a better instances of individuals in the whole? In terms of life quality. Is it better to fuel lasting societies or is it better to fuel more volatile and fragmented secs if they have better "life fullfillment".

Have our values been misplaced? Or is any instance of value just a reach. ...

Values are a confluence of the needs at any given point in time, which is a confluence of both "natural/abiotic" pressures and the pressures we present to ourselves. There is no right value system. There are value systems that are harmful but they ultimately are always just doing what is "best" for what they value. You can't tell anyone there values are wrong. But you can disagree. In that disagreement the "better" value system I suppose is what I don't have an answer to.

Is it what allows the most people to survive? Or is it what allows those who survive to have the best living standards? Is it a right of life to suffer? To promote and propagate it. Is it all just suffering with different degrees of blindness. Is there a place in this material world in which people really have better metaphysical living standards...

Glub glub glub I'm a fish in a tub and I don't know what to do

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Cool thread

Thank you

How granular does thought get?

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researchgate.net/figure/Apollonian-sphere-packing-initial-4-spheres-a-same-perspective-of-the-final-packing_fig8_326677380

nautil.us/is-consciousness-fractal-6124

"Giuseppe Vitiello, a physicist at the National Institute for Nuclear Physics in Italy, takes a different approach to the application of quantum physics to brain dynamics (using quantum field theory instead)—but he, too, likens it to an ordering along fractal lines. Like a magnet, he says: disordered on the microscopic level until a trigger causes the magnetic “arrows” to all point in the same direction and result in an organized macroscopic system. Vitiello showed that the advent of this coherent structure—namely, of coherent quantum states—corresponds to the way fractals are represented mathematically. In other words, underlying the brain’s fractal processes is quantum coherence.

Philosopher Kerri Welch looks at consciousness in a more holistic way, through the lens of time and memory. “I think consciousness is a temporal fractal,” she says. “We’re taking in an infinite amount of data every moment. It’s a jump in scale every time we compress that data.” According to Welch, perceived time is not a linear progression but a “layering.” A fractal. This “fractal-ness” changes as we do: Infants, for instance, live purely in the present, she says, not dividing time, surely not experiencing it the way we do now. That’s why, for them, the delta-wave brain state—similar to what’s seen in adults in deep sleep—dominates, according to Welch. “And then, as we grow into childhood, we start seeing faster brain waves, theta brain waves … then alpha waves, and finally beta waves once we reach adolescence.” This layered understanding of time, she says, corresponds to how we increasingly divide time into smaller and smaller pieces."

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