I know exactly what the next Zionist talking point is going to be when this type of stuff is pointed out
Not possible, Palestinians want all their land back. Jewish/Israeli people want the land too. It’s never going to be peaceful especially since both claim right to the land due to it’s religious importance.
all conflicts have their extremists. why is it only with israel/palestine that extreme demands are somehow the reason the conflict will never get solved?
a dead palestinian is better than a safe american
dont let these ppl fool u this is the best position to take, idk how u can justify people kiling children idc what happen prior

You already admitted to not knowing anything about this when @Datten brought up something related to the Israeli occupation and razing of Gaza
Please don't get caught up in propaganda and take a fuller look at what's going on right now and the last century or so that's led to this
It’s hard to be innocent and serve in the idf which is mandatory / be a settler and displace people . You can’t be innocent while engaging in and participating in ethnic cleansing . Same way if we gentrify your entire neighborhood make it so expensive you can’t live there or anyone that looks like you . Change the laws to target you . Bleed your pockets dry til you are forced to leave / live in a poorer area with less resources and more crime . We didn’t shoot you . White people wouldn’t call it violence but it is violence. If my nation can turn off your power access to water and bomb you to smithereens and claim they are doing it to keep me safe under an iron dome . Yeah I’m not fully innocent. I obviously don’t deserve death while at the same time if I don’t speak out I can’t be neutral on a moving train .
Yes, I know every Israeli must serve in the IDF at a certain point in their lives. Still doesn’t make it right to kill people who are non-combatants and before you go saying Israel does it all the time, I know. Neither is right, Hamas attacking Israel especially some festival/rave got innocent people who aren’t even Israeli killed. Let alone kids being killed too.
No matter what I can’t justify people dying, Hamas are extremists that hate Jews/Israeli people. I wouldn’t be surprised if most Palestinians hated all Jews now due to this long lasting conflict. This will never end unless one country is completely wiped off the face of the Earth. Peace talks aren’t going to work at this point, it’s long past that and even then Palestinians still wouldn’t be happy to have their land taken from them if there was peace.
Either way I don’t understand how people on this site flip-flop around from supporting terrorists calling them resistance fighters/freedom fighters when they’re going around killing indiscriminately but also get mad when Azov who just wave around Nazi symbols and commit war crimes are a thing in Ukraine. It’s absolutely mind boggling seeing the same people swallow Hamas’ nut and wish death on all Azov members. (Fyi I don’t like either of them)

You already admitted to not knowing anything about this when @Datten brought up something related to the Israeli occupation and razing of Gaza
Please don't get caught up in propaganda and take a fuller look at what's going on right now and the last century or so that's led to this
That was a whole different thread
What I don't understand for someone that doesn't really know what's going on is
Why is USA supporting Ukraine (Palestine) attacked by aggressor Russia (Israel)
But not supporting Palestine (Ukraine) attacked by aggressor Israel (Russia) ?
Cause this seems ironic to me
"the common people actually have no hate for us
" = everybody ever that went on enemy land
Yes, I know every Israeli must serve in the IDF at a certain point in their lives. Still doesn’t make it right to kill people who are non-combatants and before you go saying Israel does it all the time, I know. Neither is right, Hamas attacking Israel especially some festival/rave got innocent people who aren’t even Israeli killed. Let alone kids being killed too.
No matter what I can’t justify people dying, Hamas are extremists that hate Jews/Israeli people. I wouldn’t be surprised if most Palestinians hated all Jews now due to this long lasting conflict. This will never end unless one country is completely wiped off the face of the Earth. Peace talks aren’t going to work at this point, it’s long past that and even then Palestinians still wouldn’t be happy to have their land taken from them if there was peace.
Either way I don’t understand how people on this site flip-flop around from supporting terrorists calling them resistance fighters/freedom fighters when they’re going around killing indiscriminately but also get mad when Azov who just wave around Nazi symbols and commit war crimes are a thing in Ukraine. It’s absolutely mind boggling seeing the same people swallow Hamas’ nut and wish death on all Azov members. (Fyi I don’t like either of them)
There is a solution that isn’t wiping either side out . You do have to stop illegal settlements which are considered a war crime though . I can’t continue to ethnically cleanse you kill your son, grandpa and goat then act shocked that it has repercussions.
What I don't understand for someone that doesn't really know what's going on is
Why is USA supporting Ukraine (Palestine) attacked by aggressor Russia (Israel)
But not supporting Palestine (Ukraine) attacked by aggressor Israel (Russia) ?
Cause this seems ironic to me
Whiteness
Whiteness
Cause they're mostly white? Damn
What I don't understand for someone that doesn't really know what's going on is
Why is USA supporting Ukraine (Palestine) attacked by aggressor Russia (Israel)
But not supporting Palestine (Ukraine) attacked by aggressor Israel (Russia) ?
Cause this seems ironic to me
international relations are decided on interest only. everything else is marketing. if we were friends with russia we would justify the war on ukraine just like europe justified america's war on iraq
israel right now is funding azerbaijan to attack armenia and we will be on armenia's side
russia cutting off electricity is a war crime, israel cutting off electricity is a necessity
all conflicts have their extremists. why is it only with israel/palestine that extreme demands are somehow the reason the conflict will never get solved?
I would say it’s due to the religious context of the land as well as both being at war with each other since the 1940s. How would this work, Palestine is determined to stay and Israel isn’t trying to leave either. There was multiple peace attempts but one side doesn’t want to be a 2 state country.
It’s been a few generations of bad-blood and many Israelis are completely oblivious to how Palestinians feel or are treated or they just don’t give a f***. Now they’re starting to realize it at least the younger generations, the older ones already knew but didn’t care. No one has the idea for a peaceful resolution and even if they did, it isn’t going to be for a long time to even get that into motion. By then Gaza will be under Israeli control and many many Palestinians will be forced out or dead.
It’s not like Western Nations can strong arm Palestine and Israel to just accept that borders will be different like they have done in the past with Asian and European countries. The US can tell Israel to stop oppressing Palestinians and killing them but Palestine will still want their land back.
Maybe I’m wrong and hopefully I am, but no matter what happens Israel will still be a colonizing nation even if peace is achieved and many people won’t ever like them.
Saying all Palestinians hate all Jewish or Israelis is a stretch. Fearing or having animosity to someone who has been killing your people for 80 years is human . But Palestinians and Israelis have lived in the same area before in peace
Cause they're mostly white? Damn
Yes . Same reason Zelensky is supporting Israel. Yes he is Jewish but it’s still clear hypocrisy
international relations are decided on interest only. everything else is marketing. if we were friends with russia we would justify the war on ukraine just like europe justified america's war on iraq
israel right now is funding azerbaijan to attack armenia and we will be on armenia's side
russia cutting off electricity is a war crime, israel cutting off electricity is a necessity
I get what you mean
That's so evil though
removing netanyahu from power will do way more for peace than removing hamas. the guy's only way to stay in power is to keep illegal settlements going
removing netanyahu from power will do way more for peace than removing hamas. the guy's only way to stay in power is to keep illegal settlements going
And bomb Ramadan celebrations
The idea that hamas is all evil and idf is all good when neither is true is also whiteness
Saying all Palestinians hate all Jewish or Israelis is a stretch. Fearing or having animosity to someone who has been killing your people for 80 years is human . But Palestinians and Israelis have lived in the same area before in peace
Yea hate isn’t the right word, but I imagine a lot of them still hate Israel thats why Hamas is supported so much.
I get what you mean
That's so evil though
in the 1970s america supported Pakistan's genocide on Bengalis but went to war against germany to stop a genocide and bombed serbia to prevent one
as a leader it's all about keeping your middle class happy so they dont overthrow you everything else is secondary