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  • 1996 BRL ✊🏿

    Preach evasince

    This album so hard, still sad that i was broke when she was on the tour run for this back in the day

  • 1996 BRL ✊🏿
    ImLikeThat

    Just because he didn’t make a reference to it doesn’t mean he didn’t know. And a lot of people called him out online over it and he said he was aware she had cancer but said she still came off in that way. So yeah, there’s no way he didn’t know. He literally researches the artist and the making of the album of every review he does

    Play the review again and tell me if this all still holds true
    It's on the first page

    Also send me 2-3 songs to play so that it's a fair exchange of time

  • eversince

    Carried by cashmere cat my goat

    Taste

  • get his ass

  • Knilz

    Didn’t listen to the album and didn’t watch the review but Im taking halseys side here

  • unless u r a yt cornball yourself u have no reason to defend fantano lol

  • Chemo's no joke & those who either have family members or went through it themselves know this.

    She had every right to clap back.

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    RCLamp

    his comments about her were definitely in bad tast. however, just becuase she went through cancer doesnt mean his criticism of her being whiny and the music being ass are any less valid lol.

    people are definitely trying to use her health as self defense and a vantage point to s*** on fantano and prop up this mediocre album.

    The problem is that he said she had “main character syndrome” on an album that is about her struggle with her cancer diagnosis.

    If he was aware of her having cancer, then him calling it “main character syndrome” for her to make an album speaking about it is a ridiculously s***ty and inhumane thing to say.

    And if he wasn’t aware of her having cancer, then he failed as a reviewer and didn’t make sure he was well-informed on the album he was reviewing and didn’t thoroughly understand what the album was about.

    People aren’t mad because he didn’t like the album, they’re mad because of his very specific phrasing of saying that she had “main character syndrome” on an album about her having cancer.

    If he gave the album a 0/10 but didn’t use that very specific phrase to dismiss the album, then there wouldn’t be such an uproar about the review

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    Someone deleted their convo with me itt i am not talkking to myself i am not at thaat piunt of schizophrenia yet

  • Albert Grindstein

    If you at any point defend Fantano on anything you are for sure an loser and a b**** ngl

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    I didnt hear the album or watch the review and dont really plan on it so I dont really have a strong opinion

    But it does come off as being upset the music wasnt perceived the way she wanted, and she has a history of such.

    But also on the other hand fantano can just be very off in his reviews and i think artists should be able to challenge critics to some degree.

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    Oblivion X
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    I didnt hear the album or watch the review and dont really plan on it so I dont really have a strong opinion

    But it does come off as being upset the music wasnt perceived the way she wanted, and she has a history of such.

    But also on the other hand fantano can just be very off in his reviews and i think artists should be able to challenge critics to some degree.

    It doesn’t come off that way at all if you’re aware of how he criticized the album

    It would be like saying David Bowie had main character syndrome on Blackstar

  • CutiePieHole

    Someone deleted their convo with me itt i am not talkking to myself i am not at thaat piunt of schizophrenia yet

    Fantano got people TWEAKING

  • shaleirose

    It doesn’t come off that way at all if you’re aware of how he criticized the album

    It would be like saying David Bowie had main character syndrome on Blackstar

    But she has a track record of being upset at critics not liking her work besides this instance so its not like an isolated event.

    While yes its a reviewer job to know what they're reviewing, i still dont put it on a critic to know the full context of every album when they do and maybe the music didnt effectively relay that she was a cancer survivor. But I also dont put it past fantano for simply not catching that

  • Astroturfed argument from the Taylor Swift Industrial Complex because they're mad he interviewed Olivia and gave her a good review

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    This guy uploaded like a three part series crying into the camera multiple times cause he got dumped by his girlfriend. It was like 10 years ago but still

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    shaleirose

    The problem is that he said she had “main character syndrome” on an album that is about her struggle with her cancer diagnosis.

    If he was aware of her having cancer, then him calling it “main character syndrome” for her to make an album speaking about it is a ridiculously s***ty and inhumane thing to say.

    And if he wasn’t aware of her having cancer, then he failed as a reviewer and didn’t make sure he was well-informed on the album he was reviewing and didn’t thoroughly understand what the album was about.

    People aren’t mad because he didn’t like the album, they’re mad because of his very specific phrasing of saying that she had “main character syndrome” on an album about her having cancer.

    If he gave the album a 0/10 but didn’t use that very specific phrase to dismiss the album, then there wouldn’t be such an uproar about the review

    Don't mean to offend but
    Have you played the review fam? Or perhaps it may be distant in your memory?
    From what I can see, it seems as though you are running with the 'main character syndrome' soundbite tbh

    No offence fam to you, i watched the review again since entering this thread earlier & I think folks just jumped on snippets & soundbites

    The review has NO indication of him assessing in from the context of her illness

    imo, you do not need to learn the background of an album to enjoy it
    If the work warrants a deep dive after you enjoy it, then by all means

    E.g. I'm not about to do a Lil Xan deep dive/background research for Total Xanarchy

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    CutiePieHole

    Anthony Fantano Responds:

    https://twitter.com/theneedledrop/status/2068839694301863967

    Who won? Whos next?

    can't you just f***in give your opinion instead of playing the neutral show host??

  • Botney

    can't you just f***in give your opinion instead of playing the neutral show host??

    Have u tried reading the thread DUMB S***!

  • 1996 BRL

    Yeah, she did have that angry tweet about pitchfork in 2020 because she was annoyed they gave her a review she didn't like

    & then for this album she had that thing where she snarkily compiled all the positive sounding sentences from the review (they gave her a 4.8/10) & posted it on her socials sarcastically

    Even further back there was her being annoyed that people didn't consider her music 'alternative' because she wanted the tag of being alternative but really she just makes average contemporary pop music so why would anyone just give her the alternative tag

    Damn near a track record

    Don’t forget she said I wish pitchfork hq blows up and they’re located in one World Trade Center LMFAO

  • Prez 💎

    i like fantano generally. usually his videos are well written critiques even tho i don't agree with his take all the time. he has his perspective and speaks it well.

    that said, he gets too troll-like with his scores, often giving an album like iceman a comically bad score that is out of touch with reality. maybe it's his reality - he really hates drake so it's a 2 out of 10 for him. but then why even review a drake album? that's where the click bait monetization comes in.

    i think there will always be a natural conflict between artist and critic. it's an age old war - give someone a bad review on a significant platform, and the artist will hate you. what can you do- critics are going to critique.

    i havent listened to the halsey album so thats why i dont have a personal take on it specifically

  • 1996 BRL

    Don't mean to offend but
    Have you played the review fam? Or perhaps it may be distant in your memory?
    From what I can see, it seems as though you are running with the 'main character syndrome' soundbite tbh

    No offence fam to you, i watched the review again since entering this thread earlier & I think folks just jumped on snippets & soundbites

    The review has NO indication of him assessing in from the context of her illness

    imo, you do not need to learn the background of an album to enjoy it
    If the work warrants a deep dive after you enjoy it, then by all means

    E.g. I'm not about to do a Lil Xan deep dive/background research for Total Xanarchy

    You are not someone who makes a living off of reviewing albums. If that is your job, then yes you absolutely have to be educated on the background of the album and the context it was made in before listening to it

  • Toadie

    This guy uploaded like a three part series crying into the camera multiple times cause he got dumped by his girlfriend. It was like 10 years ago but still

    Dude says a woman has "main character syndrome" for "whining" about having cancer and you can start to understand why his wife divorced him lol

    This guy sucks

  • 1996 BRL ✊🏿
    Smacked Voodoo

    Dude says a woman has "main character syndrome" for "whining" about having cancer and you can start to understand why his wife divorced him lol

    This guy sucks

    Why do you have me defending this guy? C'mon fam

    This is not what happened
    Folks are just going off abridged hearsay, smh