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  • rvi 🐸
    Aug 25, 2021
    EuroNymous
    https://twitter.com/ElvisCostello/status/1409567943520931847

    i also read a comment that he tweeted out a mashup of the 2 songs which is kinda cool

  • Aug 25, 2021
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    rvi

    wheres elvis costello credit for brutal

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGUy2UmRxJ0!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y71iDvCYXA

    it's not as similar though and he said he doesn't care or think its a rip off. i just noticed it the first time i listened and was like

    He real for this

    How all legends should be:

    But when a Twitter user said Rodrigo's song was "pretty much a direct lift", Costello replied: "This is fine by me.
    "It's how rock & roll works," he wrote. "You take the broken pieces of another thrill and make a brand new toy."

    He added: "That's what I did."
    The veteran singer-songwriter also included hashtags referencing Bob Dylan's 1965 classic Subterranean Homesick Blues, which inspired Pump It Up; and Chuck Berry's 1956 single Too Much Monkey Business, which influenced the Dylan song.

  • Aug 25, 2021
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    safe

    Wym that’s the opposite argument to what you were just saying

    I think Hayley Williams should get paid for it

    Part of the reason I don’t care that much about Olivia rodrigos percentages is because she would be nowhere without the massive corporate backing she’s gotten this year and will undoubtedly continue to get

    Was responding to you saying she’s a multi millionaire, which means clearly she getting money from somewhere and that baffles me if it’s all from music and if it is, then Hayley really not winning much even if she getting 50%

    Honestly don’t think I’ve seen a musician get this big so suddenly since Billie but with Billie I could understand since she had at least some talent goin for her

    Anyways we getting too deep into this I also don’t give af bout this girl to be theorycrafting over her

  • Aug 25, 2021
    Nozuka

    He real for this

    How all legends should be:

    But when a Twitter user said Rodrigo's song was "pretty much a direct lift", Costello replied: "This is fine by me.
    "It's how rock & roll works," he wrote. "You take the broken pieces of another thrill and make a brand new toy."

    He added: "That's what I did."
    The veteran singer-songwriter also included hashtags referencing Bob Dylan's 1965 classic Subterranean Homesick Blues, which inspired Pump It Up; and Chuck Berry's 1956 single Too Much Monkey Business, which influenced the Dylan song.

    Crazy to hear someone in Rock use that logic since it’s bedridden in Rap and they usually use it as a means to diminish Rap as an art form because it “steals” from other stuff.

  • Aug 25, 2021
    crushedvelvet

    Was responding to you saying she’s a multi millionaire, which means clearly she getting money from somewhere and that baffles me if it’s all from music and if it is, then Hayley really not winning much even if she getting 50%

    Honestly don’t think I’ve seen a musician get this big so suddenly since Billie but with Billie I could understand since she had at least some talent goin for her

    Anyways we getting too deep into this I also don’t give af bout this girl to be theorycrafting over her

    Olivia rodrigo album has made like $20m plus this year alone

    Generally the artist will get at least 15% of that which is $3m just off music for the year let alone what she’s making from endorsements, touring, being on a Disney show etc etc

    Hayley not gonna make a ton off it for sure but eh I figure it’s about the credit more than anything

    And yea true lmao let’s just leave it there

  • Aug 25, 2021
    Nozuka

    He real for this

    How all legends should be:

    But when a Twitter user said Rodrigo's song was "pretty much a direct lift", Costello replied: "This is fine by me.
    "It's how rock & roll works," he wrote. "You take the broken pieces of another thrill and make a brand new toy."

    He added: "That's what I did."
    The veteran singer-songwriter also included hashtags referencing Bob Dylan's 1965 classic Subterranean Homesick Blues, which inspired Pump It Up; and Chuck Berry's 1956 single Too Much Monkey Business, which influenced the Dylan song.

    some older artists can be actual pricks when comes to this fair play for him to do this

  • Aug 25, 2021
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    crushedvelvet

    Dork

    Liking pop punk post ironically is dorkier.

  • Aug 25, 2021

    learnt recently that Can I Kick It made zero money since lou reed said 'You can’t use it,’ he said, ‘Y’all can use it, but I get all the money from that.'”

  • Aug 25, 2021
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    decked

    Liking pop punk post ironically is dorkier.

    Go listen to Joy Division with your razors then edgy mf

  • it’s certainly plausible that this was just a coincidence

  • Aug 25, 2021
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    crushedvelvet

    Go listen to Joy Division with your razors then edgy mf

    I will

  • 6isco 🦈
    Aug 25, 2021
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    decked

    I will

    let's have a listening party

  • Aug 25, 2021
    nerdy

    HAIL queen Hayley Williams .

  • Aug 25, 2021

    Precedent should be like 20% not 50% so people aren’t suing after every successful song. But this s*** is blatant and Paramore deserves credits and a check straight up.

    Love what Elvis Costello said too, but, at the least, to protect smaller artists, there should be compensation for rip offs.

  • Aug 25, 2021
    BRAVE

    I can already smell the “YOU CANT OWN CHORDS” cop out from a mile away due to people’s only frame of reference for music theory related to crediting disputes being chords as if chords are the only component of music composition

    But the chorus in Good 4 U has not only the same chords but nearly identical: harmonic rhythm, tempo, melodic contour, vocal performance, vocal range, groove, subgenre, sound, and is only one semitone up from Misery Business - all simultaneously

    So yes, Paramore and Hayley Williams should absolutely get a credit on this song

  • Aug 25, 2021
    6isco

    let's have a listening party

    bout to run up unknown pleasures

  • Aug 25, 2021

    Knew it was paramore since the first time i heard the song. Real ones know

  • Aug 25, 2021
    HURRY UP sab

    now that she mentions it, the song does remind me of Misery Business a lot

    edit:

    !https://youtu.be/YB-rn6f--XY

    lmao it's insane how seamless this is

  • Aug 25, 2021
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    csr

    good 4 u song of the year sorry

    Song dogshit compared to misery business.

  • Aug 25, 2021
    Nvious

    Song dogshit compared to misery business.

    nah shut up

  • Aug 25, 2021

    the thing that worries me about this is that its not a straight rip, it just sounds extremely similar

    how can you argue similarity in court? surely there is a large degree of subjectivity involved, not to mention the people arriving at the decision arent even musicians themselves?

  • Aug 25, 2021

    the very fact that there are people in this thread who don’t agree with this tells me that the decision is conentious

  • Aug 25, 2021
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    Nozuka

    I really never saw similarities

    Just cus it’s a punk song and both are women?

    lmaooo if it was a male singer it would be so much harder to argue

  • Aug 25, 2021
    HURRY UP sab

    now that she mentions it, the song does remind me of Misery Business a lot

    edit:

    !https://youtu.be/YB-rn6f--XY

    damn this goessssss

  • Aug 25, 2021

    Thank God

    I was wondering why it sounded so much like her. I’m so happy to hear this

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