"you need to stand out and be uniquely impactful at something to be on rushmore"

Says who? Also, being one of the 2 biggest rappers of your generation while being a conscious rapper is uniquely impactful given the fact that most successful rappers in hip-hop tend to be street rappers.

"hes not the most commercially successful, hes not the best bar for bar, "

For his generation, he is a combination of these just like kendrick cole drake and nicki.

"he doesnt make innovative or creatively risky music"

You don't need to do this to be one of the best from your era. This is a Kanye West talking point.

Rap culture bigs him up. That's all that matters. If you dont think he deserves it, oh well. Everyone else does

Drake nicki future Kendrick

yall are insane

how

Tyler shouldn't be in this convo lol

why

Only thing Cole has over Tyler is sales

Niggas bringing up Tyler y’all dumb as f*** holy s***

He's lacking in commerical success and overall cultural impact in rap

Damn white guy is again on top of the rap game

It’s only future or nicki, it can’t be Travis Because he’s not influential

Which is a big part of it and Cole's more consistent than tyler in terms of quality

So Mount Rushmore is just Billboard chart then? We not talking about influence at all?

we already acknowledged the demographic and spirit of the convo, calmdownintheurl

I didnt say sales was the only factor. It's one of the factor or guys like freddie or push would be in here

Yea and this is where influence, and impact comes into play. Unless sales is the end all be all

tyler isnt more influential than cole. tyler from 2013-2017 was a non-factor in rap.

Kanyes influence from the 2010s comes from his work in the 00s, not the 2010s. Most of kanye's output from the 2010s is not influential. Outside, Yeezus, there's not much at all from his output during this time. Cole had a larger impact on rap during this time for his output than kanye did influence and impact. Theres a reason the title "the big 3 existed" during the 2010s and Cole is apart of that impact.

Cause if that's the case than wayne jay z eminem and nas should be above kanye cause all them niggas influenced rap in the 2010s

The fact y’all even had to discuss that insane

How are you niggas this dumb bro it’s only artist from the 2010s. Kanye can’t be on there because he had 4 classics before 2010. Drake Nicki Minaj future and Kendrick are the rap Rushmore. Case closed it’s over there’s nothing else to talk about /thread

Bro shut the f*** up. You just talking out your ass now. Jay, and Em are not who niggas look at when you talking about the top influencers.

Kanye, Wayne, and Gucci would be the top most influential artist, of people who primarily debut post 2010.
Fashion is 100% apart of hip hop, and Kanye without a doubt, on that fact alone would arguably eclipse Cole's entire musical run if we talking about influence and impact.

If you’re saying Tyler is the number 2 guy behind Drake you are either a regular RYM user, are now paying $1500 in rent in a formerly working class neighborhood in which you’ve helped drive several single moms and their kids out of their homes, or have school shooter tendencies (not that those are mutually exclusive)