everybody in this picture at the time was alive lol.

No one was mad at the snoop dogg part of Taylor Made Freestyle for a reason.

the using a dead man's voice is what people was mad at.

Look I’m gonna be vulnerable here and I expect the mods not to ban me

But Kanye’s use of AI is worse than any tweet or rant he’s ever gone on imo

I’ll still respect him as one of the legends, but just like Timbo, AI use has stained both their legacies and it’s disgusting to me

I love music too much to play in my face like that

me and twin @ShintaroKago were saying at the same time when Taylor Made Freestyle dropped that as funny as it was, people's feelings were gonna get hurt and it was gonna set a bad precedent.

Hip hop was riding high in 2019 and then covid hit. Two things happened. Latin American stars took off like crazy and diluted the market, and then once Trump lost a lot of white people started gravitating back towards country and morgan wallen type s***— same white kids who were riding hip hop in the late 10s

And then a lot of heavy hitters like Kendrick and Travis didn’t return until 2022 earliest other than Drake with CLB

And Kanye forget it
now we’re here.

Add in a bit of a rock resurgence and a renewed mainstream push for electronic/dance music

Such a shame. As evidenced by my username I am a white guy who loves rock music but I do love hip hop and rap second, far more than any country type s***, and living through the 2010s and the few years where hip hop was the #1 genre in the world was a f***ing thrill. I feel for the kids these days. I was chatting with my 15 year old cousin last week asking him what he listens to and he said, other than like the Zach bryan type s***, “Kendrick, Drake, Frank, j Cole, Travis, Radiohead” and I was stunned.

The best thing Taylor Made did was inspire NLU

told that nigga to say he likes kids like he wouldn’t do it

was about to say at least we got the longest running #1 rap song ever out of that

Defend it

niggas will always defend all of dots clout chasing moves

Also ass, but at least I don’t have to hear it when listening to the song

deepfake that isn't necessarily making a parody of them =/= literally ai voices

also nipsey's family cosigned that 3rd verse before he released it.

Almost like when you bring it by people beforehand you won't get sued or be cease and desisted.

Now can your racist ass that has literally never said anything positive about black music on this forum based on a black artist do us all a favor and log out and never come back?

You can always tell from a mile away lol

Anybody who has the belief of "If everybody can win a championship, then winning is meaningless" is not actually an active fan of the sport/league. They are just fans of one or two particular players and teams.

That s*** doesn't sustainably grow the league because once those particular players/teams aren't competing anymore, and the viewership drops, we're gonna realize that "Hey...maybe we should've actually been promoting more teams and players so fans have something else in the league to get behind and keep them invested!"

It's the same s*** when Drake stans were saying "Hip-hop is dying cause Drake hasn't dropped!". Well Drake did drop. And he got his numbers...and yet the genre is supposedly still is decline. It's almost as if boosting up one entity for a decade doesn't really help everybody else

but also this lol.

I aint watched the video in years lmao.

venn diagram of those type of basketball fans and the fans that loved Drake doing AI GOTTA be a circle lmao.

Got right to it 😭😭😭🕊️💔🥀

They don’t listen we called how Parasocial the beef would get . Whole time for the artist it’s business . Yes Drake got his feelings hurt but partially over it f***ing up the business .

I don't really adhere to the "Disney ring asterisk" talk. Always found it to be some sore loser s***. Putting asterisks on championships in general is some lame hating ass loser s***

Yes, there is some truth that not every team was truly prepared to play in the bubble for a championship. But every team was in the same kinda situation, with the same disadvantages and advantages.

Ball up top

hmm wonder how the KTT ℍ𝕚𝕡 ℍ𝕠𝕡 experts will explain the decline

Bron
Drake
AI

Not true man

yea people made some good points then it reverted to the usual

Listen I'll concede our city by ways of Carti being from there has set a bad influence on lot of the youngins this decade

but where the fuck was everybody else?? the hell was the mecca of hip hop doing this decade in the mainstream??

Using a dead man's voice X
Using a dead man's face ✅

Got it!

Morgan Wallen debuted in 2018, so you gotta name him next to Gunna, Lil Baby and them who we all know what Lil Baby did in the 2020s

Morgan Wallen has released three Diamond albums since 2021. We are five years removed since 2021. And he has released three (emphasis on THREE) Diamond albums since then. How many Diamond albums have Gunna and Lil Baby dropped in the 2020s?

Sabrina Carpenter was on album 4 by the time Carti dropped WLR who’s only 3 years older. if you want an age mate, then Yak was Painting Pictures and having his run while Sabrina was doing god knows what. by the time she blew up he already had all his hits plus Super Gremlin and is only a year and a half older.

I'll give you that, Sabrina was definitely a late-bloomer relative to how long she's been releasing music. But you brought up Carti and Kodak in comparison to her, so let's compare them to her:

• Short 'n Sweet sold 2.4M units in 2024, and was the 3rd highest-selling album of the calendar year, despite releasing in the second half of the year. Kodak Black has not released a #1 album since 2018.
• Carti has had success in the 2020s for sure, but it pales in comparison to the success Sabrina has had in the 2020s. MUSIC was a 30-song album released in March 2025 and had sold 1.349M units by the end of 2025. Short 'n Sweet sold another 2M units in 2025, despite releasing in 2024, and her follow-up album Man's Best Album sold 1.346M units by the end of the 2025... only 3K less than MUSIC despite having 17 less songs than MUSIC and releasing five months after MUSIC.

Zack Bryan? Bet ima use Jack Harlow, Doja and Rod who debuted the same year as him. By the time Zack finally broke through on ALBUM 5, Jack Harlow already had 3 #1 songs, Doja had her massive run and Rod Wave was sitting on 3 #1 albums. each with their own arena tours for their biggest albums.

Broke through on album 5? Zach Bryan broke through with his third album, American Heartbreak, which released in 2022. Let's compare the performance of American Heartbreak with two of the artists that you mentioned who also dropped albums in 2022: Jack Harlow's Come Home the Kids Miss You. And Rod Wave's Beautiful Mind.

2022:

• American Heartbreak: 21st highest-selling album of 2022 with 782K units sold
• Come Home the Kids Miss You: 24th highest-selling album of 2022 with 761K units sold
• Beautiful Mind: 49th highest-selling album of 2022 with 631K units sold

Comparing these artists' performance for the years afterwards:

2023:

Zach Bryan:

• American Heartbreak: 11th highest-selling, 1.4M units sold
• Self-Titled: 26th highest-selling, 966K units sold

Jack Harlow:

• Not on the list

Rod Wave:

• Nostalgia: 44th highest-selling, 757K units sold

2024:

Zach Bryan:

• Self-Titled: 9th highest-selling, 1.7M units sold
• American Heartbreak: 14th highest-selling, 1.4M units sold
• The Great American Bar Scene: 24th highest-selling, 1.2M units sold

Jack Harlow:

• Not on the list

Rod Wave:

• Not on the list

2025:

Zach Bryan:

• American Heartbreak: 37th highest-selling, 876M units sold

Jack Harlow:

• Not on the list

Rod Wave:

• Not on the list

Noah Kahan? lmaooooo ight bruh. again more framing. dude on album number 3 on a major record label but gets to be best new artist, got it

What does a Best New Artist nomination have to do with this conversation? There are plenty of artists in recent years who were nominated for that award when they already had established careers

video =/= audio

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