If you start with the a***ogy of

Hip Hop/Rap = Rock n Roll (Huge musical / cultural movements born in the USA, spanning Generations)

Then I think these follow

Trap = Metal (development of the genre characterized by heavier/more massive sounds, darker subject matter. An entirely different sensibility and set of values. Fans of the OG genre and this are often at odds, but there is also a good set of overlap and sort of a blurry line between them)

Drill = Death Metal (an even more extreme subgenre of the former, characterized by even darker subject matter and heavier sound. Often inaccessible to mainstream listeners but has a strong core following. Over the years it travels overseas and Europeans put their own spin on it, a la UK drill or Norwegian death metal)

Bubblegum/Melodic Trap = Glam/Hair Metal (A later development of the genre characterized by pop elements, melody, a colorful aesthetic/fashion. Reviled by purists of previous eras, adored by youth. Massive commercial success, generates several worldwide icons)

What do yall think? Am I reaching? Obviously theres hundreds other subgenres for both, this could be a whole book, but these ones seem very apparent to me at least

Sounds on point to me

On 2nd thought I think it's kind of a cheap a***ogy. it's nice to draw parallels though

SoundcloudRap = Grunge

I was saying this about hair metal last night in a thread... The parallels definitely exist.

Mumble Rap = Punk

Traditional Hip Hop = Dad Rock

I think some of the melodic trap (Like Lil Peep and XXX) can be compared to nu-metal

Media in the 80’s:
Rock n Roll is destroying our youth!
Media in the 10’s:
Hip Hop is destroying our youth!

and even in the late 80’s to early 90’s, with the emergence of N.W.A, the country was put on notice to Rap and it’s tendencies.

Street rap= grunge

U know I can kinda see where they coming from with the overglorification of d**** s***violence but at the same time the biggest consumers of rap are white kids from the suburbs.. same thing in the 80s and 70s but it's more so just them all bein exposed at a young age for this kind of nonsense and the fact that artist lie about who they are for attention is kinda f***ed up the biggest problem is that we need to stop having this type of music in da mainstream from the younger crowd beIN exposed to it but at the same time it's still good music too.. no hate on the youth but yes like I see lots of poser kids doin the whole "straight outta Malibu" and peoples futures be ruined cuz they want to be SoundCloud rappers..

Just my two cents tho

Slatt!

Isn’t it insane that we KNOW that the things these artists (metal and hip hop) talk about are taboo and ultimately damaging to the Psyche of any young fan listening to it... yet we STILL are conditioned to believe this is good music. And music that promote good messages, clean lifestyles etc may be considered “corny” to some, when in reality that’s the life that 90% of us lead.
It must be the attraction to danger, a lifestyle out of our reach. Or on the other hand, those kids in the ghettos round America that are simply bumping the soundtrack of their lives.

Thank god for artist like Kanye, Cudi etc tho. (There’s so many but I already typed all crazy lol)

from my understanding white ppl (as I am one) love hearing music that they can't relate to because it makes them feel cool n what not.. there's nothing wrong with that until it starts infiltrating their personalities and they start to emulate that s***..

U entirely right I love positive music like I'll listen to Casey Veggies Dom Kennedy Currensy etc becuz they all just positive and talking about average s***.. I hate how people think that bein real and not a "hood figure" is "corny" .. for example logic back in the day of 2010-2014 did that whole smooth Sinatra s*** n it fit his personality good.. but then he became OVERBEARING and turned into a cheesy figure because he overdid the "I'm just an average dude" thing and started to just make bad music..

This the same reason ppl hate Cole n he might not be the best rapper but his music definitely IS genuine.. dudes a straight up good guy..

I think we live in the time of ppl wanting to be attention w****s so they just do s*** like post on social media of antics and fake a personality for just a quick dopamine rush of ppl "liking" s***

Music is, and always will be, about sound. Lyrics are certainly part of it, but they're secondary. People like dark music because its GOOD music. Sonically. The sound.

I strongly disagree.
The morals, the Macho of street rap does not at all go with the morals and the feminism of Grunge.
Street Rap is equal to a metalhead, metal is also very macho.
SoundclouldRap has way more of the Grunge sound, moral and esthetic. Plus all the grunge guys died and so did the Soundcloud rappers. All the grunge guys where rejects as well as the soundcloud rappers

I only meant kt because grunge was backlash against hair metal, I agree they are nothing alike other than that

I kinda think Soundcloudrap was a backlash against Street rap

oh i meant like current wave streetrap, not what came before 2015

Lyrical rap= folk rock