many people that r more leaning left to pro israel, arent pro fascist or genocide or anything
Pro a country that was found on fascism and genocide…doesn’t mean they are pro fascist or genocide
i agree in effect they are, but they would just disagree on that premise or wouldnt know. this is possible.
and im very specific in saying LEANING to pro israel, as in maybe they think israel doesnt handle this s*** well but it would be a worse scenario if palestinians had control and they believe this or that about hamas and how they r difficult to fight since they intentionally hide in hospitals or whatever. obviously they would be wrong, but i wouldnt consider someone like that to base their views on ebing pro fascist or pro genocidal, like how many trump supporters LITERALLY support the tenants of fascism. often when i engage with these guys its a disagreement of the facts. theres also a LOT who ARE actually that bad in their views and evil to be clear.
i cant f*** with niggas if they right wing

yapping is fun, nothing like a lil disagreement so that u can put ur ideas in order and maybe get a new perspective
you’re pushing trickle down economics in 2025. I pray you get a new perspective brother
not my fault u can’t interpret without examples (there’s one on the post u were replying to)
zionists are not on the "left". zionism is white supremacy.
i agree in effect they are, but they would just disagree on that premise or wouldnt know. this is possible.
and im very specific in saying LEANING to pro israel, as in maybe they think israel doesnt handle this s*** well but it would be a worse scenario if palestinians had control and they believe this or that about hamas and how they r difficult to fight since they intentionally hide in hospitals or whatever. obviously they would be wrong, but i wouldnt consider someone like that to base their views on ebing pro fascist or pro genocidal, like how many trump supporters LITERALLY support the tenants of fascism. often when i engage with these guys its a disagreement of the facts. theres also a LOT who ARE actually that bad in their views and evil to be clear.
like how many trump supporters LITERALLY support the tenants of fascism.
And Mr. Yahoo isnt a tenant of fascism?
How you giving them niggas more nuance and grace than folks here who (as someone raised in the south) are just as much uneducated and naive but “dont necessarily support fascism” as leaning pro israel folks are?
Your point confuses me dawg
just talking, no idea what youre saying. be easy dude. btw who exactly are "leftists" and why are they "toxic"? I'm a maoist and a follower of the PFLP and a palestinian nationalists, am I "toxic"? very weird that youre so confused about this since palestinians have a very close historical relationship to anti-imperialism and the communist world. did nobody ever explain to you the splits in the PLO or why the british were in palestine before the zionist settlers?
e: wait are you a kid? I guess this is forgivable, id suggest talking to some more of your elders about this.
yea i think those ideas are very harmful and i think communism is unrealistic and stupid. i dont care to debate that though. i think you are very far on the left. many people can vehemently disagree with you and also be on the left. i know palestine has a history of leftist movements, i dont see the relevance though. You dont have to be anti capitalism to be pro palestine. my family was directly involved in these organizations and funded some of them, and one of them is literally a hamas spokesperson, trust me im aware. im 20 to be clear, not a child.
yea i think those ideas are very harmful and i think communism is unrealistic and stupid. i dont care to debate that though. i think you are very far on the left. many people can vehemently disagree with you and also be on the left. i know palestine has a history of leftist movements, i dont see the relevance though. You dont have to be anti capitalism to be pro palestine. my family was directly involved in these organizations and funded some of them, and one of them is literally a hamas spokesperson, trust me im aware. im 20 to be clear, not a child.
You wouldnt be old enough to go to a bar in america lil bro
Your family would smack you for some of the s*** you saying rn lol
like how many trump supporters LITERALLY support the tenants of fascism.
And Mr. Yahoo isnt a tenant of fascism?
How you giving them niggas more nuance and grace than folks here who (as someone raised in the south) are just as much uneducated and naive but “dont necessarily support fascism” as leaning pro israel folks are?
Your point confuses me dawg
he is yea but there r people who lean to pro israel and dont support netanyahu. I think you can propogate harmful ideas under false pretenses. Like for exmaple, i wouldnt say someone like Destiny is right wing, but he could be described as a bit more leaning towards israel having more power in the region because he thinks palestine controlling all the land means they would genocide the jewish population. obviouslt i disagree to an extent.
The fanbase is white America, whom the majority actually support that Nazi dictator president.
Why are you surprised that majority of fans are right wing when majority of white America is right wing or bare minimum sympathetic to the right
You wouldnt be old enough to go to a bar in america lil bro
Your family would smack you for some of the s*** you saying rn lol
those guys are p far divorced from my immediate family, its people that r dead or ive never met. If im so naive and young and stupid, just prove me wrong or dont engage
some people woke up with a contusion today it seems like
Frfr.
Palestinians that say “yo some folks pro-Israel arent that bad” like…are we in the twilight zone?
hes one of those dr umar typa guys those guys have a bunch of fine ideas but also a bunch of harmful and silly ones
The fact you think pan africanism=Dr Umar tells me nobody should be listening to u to u about politics let's just keep it music lil bro
i cant f*** with niggas if they right wing
how have you not been banned yet man
Frfr.
Palestinians that say “yo some folks pro-Israel arent that bad” like…are we in the twilight zone?
didnt say they were not bad. im saying some ppl can have those ideas off of bad facts. which a lot do. ive educated mad people who were leaning to pro israel.
dont mischaracterize me please im intentionally being very specific
Frfr.
Palestinians that say “yo some folks pro-Israel arent that bad” like…are we in the twilight zone?
leftists think being a leftist = being left wing as if it isnt quite extreme on the spectrum. like bro, thats not what right and left wing means. by that logic, barely anyone ever has been left wing.
as if capitalism = right wing if ur a fan of capitalism ur right wing lmfao so silly
news flash most of the left wing historicallly doesnt support socialism in america yall r a minority of the population
Yes fans of capitalism are right wing
and yes that includes most Americans. We live in a far-right country and by default most people who call themselves liberals have latent right-wing views which activate after the contractions of liberal policymaking become too obvious which is why we take dramatic electoral shifts every few decades and why there’s so much backlash to cities rn.
And liberals ARE right-wing. This is like an accepted truth everywhere except for here. Anyone who says stuff like “let the market do what it does” is a right-winger and liberals say that s*** more than anyone.
how have you not been banned yet man
why would i be banned?
those guys are p far divorced from my immediate family, its people that r dead or ive never met. If im so naive and young and stupid, just prove me wrong or dont engage
i dont need to prove you wrong, life will. Have a good day.
yea i think those ideas are very harmful and i think communism is unrealistic and stupid. i dont care to debate that though. i think you are very far on the left. many people can vehemently disagree with you and also be on the left. i know palestine has a history of leftist movements, i dont see the relevance though. You dont have to be anti capitalism to be pro palestine. my family was directly involved in these organizations and funded some of them, and one of them is literally a hamas spokesperson, trust me im aware. im 20 to be clear, not a child.
you dont see the relevance? palestinian "progressive liberals" sold our country out to the zionist establishment for a phony "state-building" project in the West Bank (where you will be constantly discriminated by the police and forced through a checkpoint every 3 feet), whereas the "harmful communists" have been the backbone of the armed palestinian nationalist movement as well as secular plurinationalism for palestinians of all backgrounds.
youre a confused person, my ideas are tested in the history of our country's armed struggle. yours are a failure in comparison and the results of opportunism on the part of "palestinian liberals" are on display today. I guess if you were getting shot at by a palestinian authority cop you'd feel differently.
Yes fans of capitalism are right wing
and yes that includes most Americans. We live in a far-right country and by default most people who call themselves liberals have latent right-wing views which activate after the contractions of liberal policymaking become too obvious which is why we take dramatic electoral shifts every few decades and why there’s so much backlash to cities rn.
And liberals ARE right-wing. This is like an accepted truth everywhere except for here. Anyone who says stuff like “let the market do what it does” is a right-winger and liberals say that s*** more than anyone.
just wrong. its a spectrum bro people usually have a combination of right wing and left wing ideas, if they have more left wing ones they end up more left.