Dec 16, 2023
flizzyDidn't he say a bunch of antisemitic s*** a year ago? How come all these big names are still willing to work with Kanye like that? Ty$, Durk, Carti, Baby, etc. Even Nicki's reason for not clearing New Body has nothing to do with Kanye being antisemitic she's just mad he delayed it. Like he can do and say anything ppl will still support him.
None of those people have much of a moral compass. Especially Carti. And money talks
Dec 16, 2023because while 20k people would listen to a Ty $ album, 200k people will listen to a collab album with kanye
Dec 17, 2023S*** Ye said about chattel slavery was just as dumb and offensive as anything he ever said. MAGA hat era. It's not like the antisemitism came out of nowhere
Celebs prob harbor all kinds of views like that. They just have the common sense not to voice them
- Dec 17, 2023·1 reply
capersDon't agree with him AT ALL on any holocaust denial but the black isrealite stuff is interesting in the sense everyone is claming some homeland or claim to terms based on some bullshit fiction brainwashing nonsense...that area don't f***ing "belong" to f***ing anyone and no one is the original anything its all just f***ing 2000 year old words that mean d*** all in 2023.
If your argument has anything to do with some f***ing book someone wrote 2000 years ago to control people or the words of some "prophet" nah miss me with that s***This not true, that area has significance and there's a reason why people settled there after the original people's where exiled
The content of that book older than 2000 years
Part of that "bullshit fiction brainwashing" is that the people that settle there now are immigrants, and this study is leaning on to that idea
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3595026Obviously, there's a lot more to it but people writing it off as "bullshit" is pretty brainwashed and/or bigoted to me
- Dec 17, 2023Jayson
*Israelite
Right now I'm just asking do you know of any "Black" historians?
It could include those topics or any history in general
Also, Ye never said anything about the Sephardic Jews
It's crazy all these discussions end when you ask for links
Bro basically said every historian in the world white and left it at that
Dec 17, 2023·1 replyJaysonThis not true, that area has significance and there's a reason why people settled there after the original people's where exiled
The content of that book older than 2000 years
Part of that "bullshit fiction brainwashing" is that the people that settle there now are immigrants, and this study is leaning on to that idea
https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3595026/Obviously, there's a lot more to it but people writing it off as "bullshit" is pretty brainwashed and/or bigoted to me
I don’t think it’s bigoted to find tribalistic religious beliefs bullshit (especially ones that reinforce a perpetual war of ownership over land that isn’t truly anybody's). I’m curious to know what makes that land significant if u remove the religious aspect.
- Dec 17, 2023·2 repliessekky
I don’t think it’s bigoted to find tribalistic religious beliefs bullshit (especially ones that reinforce a perpetual war of ownership over land that isn’t truly anybody's). I’m curious to know what makes that land significant if u remove the religious aspect.
I think it's bigoted when it's repeatedly weaponized to damage someone, and in it's bad faith kinda crazy to me. Especially, since no one comes to the aid of other niggas
Being an Israelite generally they're under the belief that they are descendants of Jacob of that area. But they are a lot of sects that holds their own beliefs as well. My specific issue is there's a problem or roadblock the moment you want investigate
- Dec 17, 2023·1 replyJayson
I think it's bigoted when it's repeatedly weaponized to damage someone, and in it's bad faith kinda crazy to me. Especially, since no one comes to the aid of other niggas
Being an Israelite generally they're under the belief that they are descendants of Jacob of that area. But they are a lot of sects that holds their own beliefs as well. My specific issue is there's a problem or roadblock the moment you want investigate
I’m genuinely confused what yr point is. the person yr replying to seems to find religion in general to be bullshit (to paraphrase), and you find that bigoted?
- Dec 17, 2023·1 replyJayson
I think it's bigoted when it's repeatedly weaponized to damage someone, and in it's bad faith kinda crazy to me. Especially, since no one comes to the aid of other niggas
Being an Israelite generally they're under the belief that they are descendants of Jacob of that area. But they are a lot of sects that holds their own beliefs as well. My specific issue is there's a problem or roadblock the moment you want investigate
is Jacob not a character from scripture? you seem to know a bit about Israel so I genuinely want to ask you why that land is significant other than for religious reasons
- Dec 17, 2023·1 replysekky
I’m genuinely confused what yr point is. the person yr replying to seems to find religion in general to be bullshit (to paraphrase), and you find that bigoted?
I'm saying the way people question the idea is bigoted
You can't go around demeaning Jewish peoples, you'll lose damn near everything you worked for in Ye's case
- Dec 17, 2023sekky
is Jacob not a character from scripture? you seem to know a bit about Israel so I genuinely want to ask you why that land is significant other than for religious reasons
I personally don't have any conscious ties to that land and is not my field of study. I focus on the niggas that are in America, and while that region plays a part and is very topical at the moment I don't have much interest in learning about it unless someone I trust is teaching
I know some scripture, as I was raised Baptist, but once your grandparents start telling you your family is Blackfoot Indian that religion s*** kinda go out the window for a while
- Dec 17, 2023·1 replyJayson
I'm saying the way people question the idea is bigoted
You can't go around demeaning Jewish peoples, you'll lose damn near everything you worked for in Ye's case
Ah I see what yr saying now. I think the original comment was referring to black Israelites rather than Jewish people - would u find it to be bigoted to the NOI too?
- Dec 17, 2023·2 repliessekky
Ah I see what yr saying now. I think the original comment was referring to black Israelites rather than Jewish people - would u find it to be bigoted to the NOI too?
I actually find it bigoted to "Black" people all around, whether Israelite or not because a lot do not know of their birthright. Most of us in America can only trace a few generations back, so I believe the tone of which this matter gets spoken is highly crass, disingenuous, and disregarding of a peoples ancestry. I'm even at the point where I don't believe "Blacks" were "slaves" in this country, but rather prisoners of war when I trace back the etymology of slave. I say that to say, since we don't have a definite backstory other groups can litigiously affect and push out a narrative that for the large majority cannot refute based on the restriction of history and information
Like I had someone today tag a mod on one of my posts and they were not apart of the conversation, but had a field day participating in the degradation of a "Black" man on a Hip-Hop site and that's crazy
- Dec 17, 2023·1 replyJayson
I actually find it bigoted to "Black" people all around, whether Israelite or not because a lot do not know of their birthright. Most of us in America can only trace a few generations back, so I believe the tone of which this matter gets spoken is highly crass, disingenuous, and disregarding of a peoples ancestry. I'm even at the point where I don't believe "Blacks" were "slaves" in this country, but rather prisoners of war when I trace back the etymology of slave. I say that to say, since we don't have a definite backstory other groups can litigiously affect and push out a narrative that for the large majority cannot refute based on the restriction of history and information
Like I had someone today tag a mod on one of my posts and they were not apart of the conversation, but had a field day participating in the degradation of a "Black" man on a Hip-Hop site and that's crazy
ok I get that - yr saying it’s demeaning to say ‘black people aren’t the true children of Israel’ when the history has been lost and it’s not possible to prove either way?
- Dec 17, 2023·1 replysekky
ok I get that - yr saying it’s demeaning to say ‘black people aren’t the true children of Israel’ when the history has been lost and it’s not possible to prove either way?
I'm saying it's bigoted to provoke someone constantly without substantial backing. People that call all Israelites "bullshit" and "brainwashed" are participating in bigotry
And I personally believe it could possibly be proven, but it's not disproven at this moment and is of valid concern
I'm not sure where you got that from
- Dec 17, 2023·1 replyJayson
I'm saying it's bigoted to provoke someone constantly without substantial backing. People that call all Israelites "bullshit" and "brainwashed" are participating in bigotry
And I personally believe it could possibly be proven, but it's not disproven at this moment and is of valid concern
I'm not sure where you got that from
You said the history/information is restricted for the large majority? I interpreted that to mean either a minority knows the truth, of that the history was lost. I misunderstood.
I don’t get how we can possibly figure out the ‘true children of Israel’ outside of an extraordinary religious event.
- Dec 17, 2023·edited·1 replysekky
You said the history/information is restricted for the large majority? I interpreted that to mean either a minority knows the truth, of that the history was lost. I misunderstood.
I don’t get how we can possibly figure out the ‘true children of Israel’ outside of an extraordinary religious event.
I think Old World America has a lot to do with that story being incomplete. Just as done Israelites believe the "Middle East" is a point of origin different sects like some Nazarenes Believe the Americas to be an origin point of humanity. They look to the Grand Canyon referencing that site being amongst the older temples in the world, the mounds or pyramids that are in North and South America
Personally I believe it can be found out if we stop putting emphasis on race and start focusing on phenotypes, the fact that all humanity can be traced to a melanated woman through the mitochondrial eve gene, and there are still people who know the story I'm not there yet but these books are a great read for a comparable time period and while not centered around Israelites it obviously touches on Black Civilizations, as well as "Black" Judaism, and the reason I keep putting "Black" in quotations by telling some of the history of copper colored peoples in the Americas pre 1500
I'm personally leaning more with Ye after learning of my Indian heritage from my elders and researching on the tidbit
I just hope to have decent conversations about these topics because they get hectic rather quickly because this all is non-mainstream information, and you've definitely been respectful and curious so I hope I'm giving a lot of background information. Albeit I don't have all the answers yet, I'm providing what got me researching what Ye, Farrakhan, Kyrie, and them were saying
Edit: but it is hilarious that the Ashkenazi have the same name of the grandson of Gomer, who were the brothers of Shem and Ham
Dec 17, 2023
PlightThis section is just a mental asylum at this point
Dec 17, 2023flizzyDidn't he say a bunch of antisemitic s*** a year ago? How come all these big names are still willing to work with Kanye like that? Ty$, Durk, Carti, Baby, etc. Even Nicki's reason for not clearing New Body has nothing to do with Kanye being antisemitic she's just mad he delayed it. Like he can do and say anything ppl will still support him.
Well maybe ask yourself how come you’re still posting on a Kanye fan forum?
- Dec 17, 2023
People still worked with Henry Ford after his antisemitic words.
Kanye is a musical genius and can't be cancelled.
Dec 17, 2023·1 replyBecause we all know deep down that this is just a bs phase he's going through and like a 4y old he doesn't even grasp half of the consequences tied to the things he's saying
Dec 17, 2023·1 replyLaFleurBecause we all know deep down that this is just a bs phase he's going through and like a 4y old he doesn't even grasp half of the consequences tied to the things he's saying
He’s been on this “phase” for a while now.
- Dec 17, 2023Jayson· edited
I think Old World America has a lot to do with that story being incomplete. Just as done Israelites believe the "Middle East" is a point of origin different sects like some Nazarenes Believe the Americas to be an origin point of humanity. They look to the Grand Canyon referencing that site being amongst the older temples in the world, the mounds or pyramids that are in North and South America
Personally I believe it can be found out if we stop putting emphasis on race and start focusing on phenotypes, the fact that all humanity can be traced to a melanated woman through the mitochondrial eve gene, and there are still people who know the story I'm not there yet but these books are a great read for a comparable time period and while not centered around Israelites it obviously touches on Black Civilizations, as well as "Black" Judaism, and the reason I keep putting "Black" in quotations by telling some of the history of copper colored peoples in the Americas pre 1500
I'm personally leaning more with Ye after learning of my Indian heritage from my elders and researching on the tidbit
I just hope to have decent conversations about these topics because they get hectic rather quickly because this all is non-mainstream information, and you've definitely been respectful and curious so I hope I'm giving a lot of background information. Albeit I don't have all the answers yet, I'm providing what got me researching what Ye, Farrakhan, Kyrie, and them were saying
Edit: but it is hilarious that the Ashkenazi have the same name of the grandson of Gomer, who were the brothers of Shem and Ham
gonna read those and get back to u
- Dec 17, 2023Undecided
He’s been on this “phase” for a while now.
A year more or less, he was a christian republican before that (you could argue that this is just a continuation of the same phase and I wouldn't fight you about it). Who knows what he's going to be in a year
