A lot of my views on economics have been driven by firsthand look at the last 4 years in the US, and definitely this year.

I think people should get free healthcare instead of people racking up hundreds of thousands (if not millions when something serious goes on, like cancer "treatment" / "therapy") of dollars in debt, healthcare and the pharm industry is a business like none other,

free education up to at least community college level, (the necessary education for contributing to society and the world generally has increased so much more than back when u just needed a high school degree and you could get a job that buys a house. Also we need less people to be f***in dumbasses, hopefully we can fund teaching critical thinking)

i think people should be able to make a living wage and not be worked to death and treated as expendable by their employer,

I think no one should have been evicted during a pandemic,

A lot of this overlaps with political opinions and issues too so sometimes I don't differentiate from the political issues that the economics are directly connected to because its not easy for me to do so, its relevant to include both i guess to reason towards why

uhhh I think much less money need be spent on military because interventionist/imperialist violence and sticking your hand violently into a country's conflict because you're upset they're not sucking the US dollar's d*** or because they claim to be socialist is disgusting (hi reagan and "containment" from before you too, basically all US politics after wwII involved this type of s***),

US fears socialism so much they actively invaded and funded coups in countries that might be successful and prove them wrong about their economic values

I'm not a professor though, this is a bunch of mixed thoughts on the issue I don't have much more to give you at the moment, but maybe u see a little of what im saying, or maybe i look like an idiot to u, either is fine, im chillin, done responding tbh

There's so many issues that came from this and mutated into worse and worse conditions,

that when you're envisioning a path forward, it's a huge list of things that ought to be done

many people fully believe it has to be a takeover/revolution in a certain way, I don't really speak on what it has to be because I don't know what the real revolution looks like

hopefully i convince snow the goat to work for Civvl

I agree with a lot of what you wrote and/or I could get behind it if put into place right.

Dont agree at all with "free" community college tho. Healthcare is one thing if it is implemented right.

Do you actually want socialism? or do you want the usa to be more like some european countries?

socialism? what the F***

you said you would rather have socialism then what we have in usa

do u think high school should be paid for by all, because the threshold for knowledge to function in society has gone up, to where the younger people are at a disadvantage for what the workforce and world in general requires of them,

again, this requires a huuuuge re-evaluation of pretty much all of our priorities as human beings so i mean, i don't think just a few economic changes fixes that, it's much more overarching than that.

And I don't know whether people will be able to make those improvements, in my lifetime, but it doesn't hurt to work toward things being better

i mean yea

how does that adapt to this particular landscape? it's hard to really articulate, as it's such a reversal of values

Necessary evil

actually nvm just involves people not being s***heads

Do you want socialism or not? you're dodging the question lmao. But it seems like you want capitalism with welfare state

I think the way our system is getting rid of high school would be to hard. So yes I am okay with publicly funded highschools especially because it still allows for private schools and home school.

I think we should reevaluate the high school curiculm. but I dont think "free" community college is the answer.

Great. Lotta people just lost their hustler spirit. 💯

What is socialism to you, like give me a definition. And not just "hiring 2 people and giving them 2/3 of my business" cause that just doesn't do it for me.

loss of hustler spirit to want more ownership in where you work? Or to advocate for healthcare for everyone, and all that other type of s***? and help for the disadvantaged?

Nah anybody can play the game that's already set, going against the already set structure is a different type of hustle. I don't even know if (people wanting socialism/being anti-capitalist) is 100% what you're referring to but it sounds like thats what u were going for

1 - I don't think socialism automatically means everyone gets an equal stake in the workplace just cause they work there. it implies they get much more of a say, but that's some other s***. I DO think that people should actually get a stake in the money they generate from their labor, yeah. The exact fair math? I don't know but it's definitely imbalanced in so many ways.

2 - the reason why I don't go into much detail is there is some issue, as there is with all government, with the government aspect of implementation. There are issues generally that I have with governmental institutions that I'm still trying to truly work out, that's why I would rather hold back saying certain things until i really flesh it out, like a plan or a better alternative.

So some stuff, I am reluctant to say full force until I really develop more knowledge to back it up on certain parts.

There are also different facets and focuses on how a system operates, I can't tell you that I want something, which I have no clue what you think that something is. you probably have a different view and focus on what socialism is.

Generally? Yeah. I don't really want to make billions more dollars than everyone. I'd rather see people be able to have free healthcare and education so that they can live a more fruitful life. I'd love to see people actually have a better chance at being happy in whatever workplace they're at, more time for vacation and leisure and the ability to travel and explore life instead of being essentially a wage slave breaking their back.

socialism is when the workers/the people own the means of production

what i'm saying is based on what you are writing I dont think you are a socialist. You seem more like a social democrat or democratic socialist(usa).

okay so just the short, textbook, definition.

I mean, generally, I do think the workers who are essentially running something, keeping it afloat, deserve to be compensated fairly for what they're doing and I don't really think that is happening most of the time under the current system.

Privatization of certain industries and otherwise in the US, has proven problematic for holding those places or things accountable.

That's also where it gets tricky because I don't think the government controlling every single piece is the answer to the problem,

That's where I think it ought to come back to the "collective" way of operating. This is also why you see more progress locally, in places, when people work together, rather than federally/nationally. Most often times. Because we're never fully collective at the federal level, it's not representative enough

you need to go further.

That's probably accurate for me atm, especially given the state of things I've lived in and known my whole life, and then as I got into the workforce and started to be more "out in the world" I became more wanting of something other than the system we have now

as of my current knowledge, thats probably where I'm at ideologically, but over the last years and especially the last half year I've become more sympathetic and curious to nations that have claimed to be socialist states, and the things they were able to accomplish, albeit they were still involved in so much conflict it may have tarnished what could have been a greater appreciation for their accomplishments in healthcare, education, equality in other ways, etc...

The thing I hate about capitalism and the stock market is companies being way overvalued like 2 billion dollars for nikola before they've even started operating or turning a profit

Push me into the deep end my friend

The reason I believe I'm at the point where I said is I don't feel educated enough at the moment to speak on what further looks like, (yet), although I am open to learning what it may look like, and connecting the dots for myself.

I hate the conditions so many people, and just living organisms in general, are affected by and I think a lot of that stems from capitalism's inherent goal is to rise above in terms of wealth only (at the expense of abusing others and figuratively stepping on people and sometimes literally in terms of the police defending private property)

and not focusing on other things that I consider to be more important other than just who has the most dollars, yachts, and portfolios.

this is how that post felt to read though lmao