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  • Nov 7, 2020
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    Dizzy Dake

    Raymond V Raymond was full of soulless pop drivel that sounds dated af

    Hard II Love was okay I didn't like the direction of that trap sound

    He's been teasing Confessions 2

    And JT has been teasing FSLS 2

  • Nov 7, 2020
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    Goo

    Nah he tried to collab with trap artists, he definitely wants to be relevant again but times have changed.

    Kinda sad really

  • Nov 7, 2020
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    BlackStar

    Kinda sad really

    Kinda, but he's still rich and famous with the status of an OG in the game that newer singers look up to, so he's fine.

  • Nov 7, 2020
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    Goo

    Kinda, but he's still rich and famous with the status of an OG in the game that newer singers look up to, so he's fine.

    yeah that was kinda my point initially in the sense that he doesn't feel like he has to make some cultural defining album given he's done that already but obvs only he knows

  • Nov 7, 2020

    Confessions is a top 5 R&B album OAT tho so he gets a pass

  • Nov 7, 2020
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    OGs keep trying to follow trends.

  • Nov 7, 2020

    Chris Brown has the WOAT catalog of any R&B singer. He's decent at performances and features and that's about it

    Usher's catalog is pretty straight. Not the best but far from bad. I actually enjoy My Way more than Confessions though.

  • Nov 7, 2020
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    BlackStar

    yeah that was kinda my point initially in the sense that he doesn't feel like he has to make some cultural defining album given he's done that already but obvs only he knows

    It is what it is, for most successful singers and rappers you have your prime years and then as the mainstream interest in you starts fading, music turns into a side hustle and your main hustle becomes business ventures, investments, participating in reality shows and all that s***.

  • Nov 7, 2020
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    MrIndigo96

    Raymond v Raymond and here I stand are good albums

    Love You Gently is better than any song on Confessions 🤷🏿‍♂️

  • Nov 7, 2020
    Dizzy Dake

    I used to play Usher often back in my high school days, circa late 2000's to be exact and his s*** like 8701 and Confessions were in my rotation like a motherfucker. Now when I listen to his later albums like Here I Stand and Raymond whatever, this s*** is so cheesy and corny with the electro s***. He lost his soul and made full of radio bait songs desperate for a hit, made me sad too.

    Wtf happened to him? No one even talks about him nowadays...

    Rnb fans are conservative and anything that doesn't sound like the 70s/80s/90s is deemed as trash and soulless

    That's what happened

  • Nov 7, 2020
    Goo

    It is what it is, for most successful singers and rappers you have your prime years and then as the mainstream interest in you starts fading, music turns into a side hustle and your main hustle becomes business ventures, investments, participating in reality shows and all that s***.

    very good point, as long as he can eat and support the fam that's most important

  • Nov 7, 2020
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    JaeRell

    OGs keep trying to follow trends.

    Maxwell's last album didn't follow any trends and it was pretty damn great too and it still flopped. At that point you can either make music for yourself and your core fan base, or try to chase the current trends in hopes to get lucky enough to reach a wider audience.

  • Nov 7, 2020
    beast444

    Love You Gently is better than any song on Confessions 🤷🏿‍♂️

    that’s a hot take. Looking for myself and Mars vs. Venus are amazing songs too though. Def to me prime usher lvl

  • Nov 7, 2020
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    Crine imagine thinking Raymond v Raymond and here I stand aren’t at least 8/10 albums.

    Everything else has had hit or misses and when the Man has missed he’s missed bad but still he’s that nigga

  • Nov 7, 2020

    Why continue to make music when you can pimp out your biggest cash cow

  • Nov 7, 2020
    RX Nigerian Pastor

    Crine imagine thinking Raymond v Raymond and here I stand aren’t at least 8/10 albums.

    Everything else has had hit or misses and when the Man has missed he’s missed bad but still he’s that nigga

    He's kinda inconsistent with that. When he hits, he hits hard. but when he misses, he misses har. He has barely any in between tracks.

  • Nov 7, 2020

    Usher made Yeah.
    he don't need nothing else

  • Nov 7, 2020
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    Goo

    Maxwell's last album didn't follow any trends and it was pretty damn great too and it still flopped. At that point you can either make music for yourself and your core fan base, or try to chase the current trends in hopes to get lucky enough to reach a wider audience.

    Yeah, but his last record didn't have hits like Pretty Wings, Bad Habits, and Fistful of Tears.

  • Nov 7, 2020
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    JaeRell

    Yeah, but his last record didn't have hits like Pretty Wings, Bad Habits, and Fistful of Tears.

    It was a better album overall.

    "Lake by the Ocean" and "1990x" sounded like very strong singles imo, catchy and memorable, but that type of music simply has no mainstream reach anymore.

    Then a couple years ago he also released "Shame" which was an amazing single that could've been a hit if it came out a decade earlier.

  • Nov 7, 2020
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    Goo

    It was a better album overall.

    "Lake by the Ocean" and "1990x" sounded like very strong singles imo, catchy and memorable, but that type of music simply has no mainstream reach anymore.

    Then a couple years ago he also released "Shame" which was an amazing single that could've been a hit if it came out a decade earlier.

    I disagree fam. Those new singles just ain't touching his old singles even though the music is good. Pretty Wings would def do numbers if released today. That song hits across all demographics.

  • Nov 7, 2020

    Maxwell did better numbers without a hit than Usher did with No Limit

  • Nov 7, 2020
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    Sinewave

    Yeah, Indigo is better than any Usher album post-Confessions

    Chris Brown Indigo?

    Absolute facts

  • Nov 7, 2020

    He got lucky with that album

  • Nov 7, 2020

    Usher and chris brown been trash

  • Nov 7, 2020
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    JaeRell

    I disagree fam. Those new singles just ain't touching his old singles even though the music is good. Pretty Wings would def do numbers if released today. That song hits across all demographics.

    When was the last time a song like Pretty Wings blew up? Lol

    Shame is up there with his GOAT singles..

    It's not fair and true to claim that if you make great music it will necessarily blow up.