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  • Dec 3, 2020
    ragedsycokiller

    So no mixtape exist now?

    Mixtapes in the old form/definition don't really exist today. Mixtapes have progressed, as the entire way of consuming music in general has progressed.

    Someone streaming a song on a mixtape site, and someone streaming a song on Spotify is basically the same thing. One generates money though and that one can also make your music gain a wider platform/traction, which is the entire point of mixtapes for upcoming artists.

    It doesn't make sense NOT to release a mixtape on Spotify/Apple Music.

  • Dec 3, 2020

    It is

    don’t let them fool you

  • Dec 3, 2020
    iHype

    I’m trying to figure out how y’all are still stuck in 2006. We have had this discussion since If You’re Reading This.

    No something being for sale does not make it a studio album anymore. Uploading music for consumption in the digital era is now very easy and nearly priceless, so it makes sense to even upload mixtapes on official services. It only brings profit which especially makes sense for an artist who is just starting out and needs money. Why would you lose money by making your music not fully available just so you can say it fits the old head definition of a mixtape?

    It’s clear in the streaming era a mixtape is more like a side project, and it is usually defined by not having a push similar to a studio album nor having the same commercial expectations. It also tends not to have a rollout prior.

    Amazing post

  • Dec 3, 2020

    It literally was never pushed as an album she always called it a mixtape lol

  • snowchild ❄️
    Dec 3, 2020

    Because she is an artist and can decide how she wants her album to be classified

  • Dec 3, 2020

    along w every other answer already, aint there a clause in her contract requiring a certain length out of a studio album? cuz if that's the case ion think she's legally able to bill it as her debut

  • Dec 3, 2020
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    iHype

    I’m trying to figure out how y’all are still stuck in 2006. We have had this discussion since If You’re Reading This.

    No something being for sale does not make it a studio album anymore. Uploading music for consumption in the digital era is now very easy and nearly priceless, so it makes sense to even upload mixtapes on official services. It only brings profit which especially makes sense for an artist who is just starting out and needs money. Why would you lose money by making your music not fully available just so you can say it fits the old head definition of a mixtape?

    It’s clear in the streaming era a mixtape is more like a side project, and it is usually defined by not having a push similar to a studio album nor having the same commercial expectations. It also tends not to have a rollout prior.

    So it literally is just semantics.

  • Dec 3, 2020

    she signed to 300

    they always do this

  • blachaze

    So it literally is just semantics.

    Nope. It's pretty obvious lookin at what he's said. Yal are just stuck in 2012

  • Dec 3, 2020

    albums and mixtapes are interchangable nowadays.

  • Dec 3, 2020

    I agree with you strongly on this op and this is exactly how I felt when I made the thread about PNB Rock having 3 debut albums (then some guy on reddit stole my thread and presented it as his own). Album flops, label changes marketing to "mixtape" or "Playlist" or whatever they wanna call it then it repeats until either you sell or you get dropped

  • Dec 3, 2020
    Kdogone

    The project that sells is the official debut, that’s the rules

    the project that the artist and label decide is the debut is the debut, thats the rules

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    Dec 3, 2020
    Gulpin

    I know you’re 10000% right but I’m gonna continue to get pissed when people call their s*** mixtapes and don’t have it up for an actual free download

    it's really bc mixtapes don't count as albums in these artists' contracts, and their labels get to decide whether a project is album-quality or not. (hint: they usually say it's not)

  • Dec 3, 2020

    It is

  • Dec 3, 2020

    Whatever the artist says it is, is what it is.

    People are now calling traditional full-length albums "projects", "digital albums", and "playlists". It's not so much about how much promotion it gets, but how the artist and their label decide to label it.

    I guess there's a marketing/financial incentive involved but to see everyone dancing around the word "album" is low-key hilarious.

  • Dec 3, 2020
    iHype

    I’m trying to figure out how y’all are still stuck in 2006. We have had this discussion since If You’re Reading This.

    No something being for sale does not make it a studio album anymore. Uploading music for consumption in the digital era is now very easy and nearly priceless, so it makes sense to even upload mixtapes on official services. It only brings profit which especially makes sense for an artist who is just starting out and needs money. Why would you lose money by making your music not fully available just so you can say it fits the old head definition of a mixtape?

    It’s clear in the streaming era a mixtape is more like a side project, and it is usually defined by not having a push similar to a studio album nor having the same commercial expectations. It also tends not to have a rollout prior.

    She said it was a debut album till after the first week

  • With the way music is so easily released these days, I feel like the "debut" is the album that comes out after the artist has officially arrived on the scene and is given a rollout, legitimate industry backing, etc

    Maybe not necessarily from the industry, but the project they put out once all eyes are on them

    ie: Jack Harlow, Meg, Lil Uzi, etc etc

  • iHype

    I’m trying to figure out how y’all are still stuck in 2006. We have had this discussion since If You’re Reading This.

    No something being for sale does not make it a studio album anymore. Uploading music for consumption in the digital era is now very easy and nearly priceless, so it makes sense to even upload mixtapes on official services. It only brings profit which especially makes sense for an artist who is just starting out and needs money. Why would you lose money by making your music not fully available just so you can say it fits the old head definition of a mixtape?

    It’s clear in the streaming era a mixtape is more like a side project, and it is usually defined by not having a push similar to a studio album nor having the same commercial expectations. It also tends not to have a rollout prior.

  • Dec 3, 2020

    What was her fw sales

  • Dec 3, 2020

    I thought Tina Snow was the debut

  • Dec 3, 2020

    It’s all bullshit and they make up what they are called

    At the end of the day there isn’t a material difference. They are all projects of original music that you can stream /buy

    There isn’t a difference anymore like it used to be. Mixtapes would be for free download with maybe other peoples beats, and then albums would be available to buy with original music

  • Dec 3, 2020

    its literally whenever they decide to call it an album. only way you can really tell at this point is in how its rolled out

    There's even cases where its called album originally, and once it flops they'll just call it a "project" and then try again next go around

    s*** all doesn't have much meaning anymore and the quality between all these terms have blended to the point you can't tell the difference unless you witnessed how the project released

  • Dec 3, 2020

    They call it a mixtape if they think the project isn’t good enough to be a studio album OR they think the project is going to flop

  • Dec 3, 2020

    Everything is a mixtape until it sells 80k first week. Young Thug’s debut album was technically So Much Fun which even he knows is not the case